Well sure, that isn’t the target of the organization.
What exactly is your point? If you asked some individuals supportive of BLM if they were sad about what happened, I’m sure they would be.
The American Cancer Society also didn’t speak about it since they focus on cancer, nor the American Lung Society, nor any one of hundreds of organizations that focus on other problems.
If you’re asking whether I’ve literally been victim to much more crime near black neighborhoods than when living near non-black neighborhoods, then yes that’s literal. Not sure where the gotcha is here. It is very literal. Totally literal. Super dooper literal. Why would anyone question this?
Black, poverty, crime … are you saying this isn’t the case? Why for the discussion? Black neighborhoods aren’t different? Cops, including black cops, just target black neighborhoods because prejudice and racism? Really?
We’re asking about the specific words that you used. It’s “totally literal” that you can’t live near a black neighborhood without being a constant victim of crime? Really? You don’t believe that there are any black neighborhoods in which people who live nearby aren’t constant victims of crime?
You keep adding things to what I’ve said. You seem to love doing that.
Can’t you just take what I say as what I say instead of forcing it into some sort of me vs. you? Why does everything have to be us vs them? Couldn’t there be a variety of points of view and opinions? Does everything have to be black vs. white, literally and/or figuratively?
Does your world revolve around “specific words?” Are you a lawyer?
There are what, a billion or more black (I know biologists don’t say that!) people in the world? You need me to say I couldn’t *literally *live somewhere with black people and not be a victim of car & home breakins? Sorry, you aren’t going to corner me that way. Not going to happen. Literally.
It’s not cornering. I literally don’t understand how your statement isn’t referring to all black neighborhoods. If you didn’t mean all black neighborhoods, then why did you say “I can’t live near a black neighborhood…”? If I say I can’t walk past a Mexican restaurant without hearing mariachi music, then that means I believe all Mexican restaurants play mariachi music. That’s what those words mean.
Maybe you were being hyperbolic. If that’s the case, then why not just say so?
I have not lived in *all *black neighborhoods.
Mmkay?
Okay. Was your point simply that black neighborhoods tend to have higher crime statistics than other neighborhoods, on average? No one has disputed such a trivial point, which is why I took your words at their literal meaning.
It’s funny how demands for linguistic precision are inconsistently applied.
Humpty Dumpty would be proud.
Because their standard for “law enforcement mistreatment of minorities” is not a reasonable one. If the police shoot a violent criminal who has stolen a firearm or is attempting to steal one and refuses to surrender peacefully, that is not law enforcement mistreatment of minorities: it is the criminal’s fault for escalating the threat to the point where deadly force is justified to prevent an armed man who has committed violent crimes in the past from being able to run amok, and for refusing the offer to deescalate the situation by turning himself in to the lawful authorities.
I don’t think your accurately characterizing their standard. Further, a crime doesn’t (or shouldn’t) give police carte blanche for deadly force. If police officers are more likely to escalate than de-escalate for black suspects, or more likely to draw their weapons, etc., or are more likely to try and use peaceful means for white suspects, then that’s a reasonable issue to be addressed.
LOL. Such things are hilarious indeed! Glad we can share this belly laugh together!
There has never, ever been a case where cops had carte blanche to use deadly force. That would be a crime. Are you suggesting cops in the US have carte blanche to extrajudicially execute whomever they want?
If so, this is certainly far more than a race (I know biologists don’t say that) issue.
Why do you think it’s a trivial point? Do you not think it’s a factor in how police approach encounters with blacks vs other races?
I believe that through most of American history, in many parts of the country, police officers effectively had carte blanche to kill black people at will. I believe that in the modern era, some police officers likely got away with killing black people without good reason by utilizing the blue wall of silence – if the Scott/Slager shooting, for example, hadn’t been filmed, then I think it’s very likely he would have gotten away with murder. And I think that it’s reasonable to believe that there have been similar incidents in recent history that weren’t recorded. Add all this together, and I believe that it’s entirely reasonable that some black people see law enforcement with absolute terror, as unpredictable and potentially deadly enemies no matter what they do.
I think it’s a trivial point because no one denies it.
If most police actually wanted dead black men dead I think they could accomplish that goal much faster than they do. In many of these cases you have 20 year veteran cops who have killed only one black person, do you think they’ve been secretly wanting to kill one the whole time and this is this first chance they’ve had? Oftentimes they have black police chiefs, have they been secretly inducted into the kill all the black men club? Obama’s justice department regularly looks into these crimes and find no evidence of wrong doing, is Obama, Loretta lynch, and Eric holder in on it too?
I don’t think more than a tiny number of police want to kill black people. I believe some significant number get jumpy around black people and might shoot without cause out of nerves, and then be willing to lie to protect themselves.
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When something like 40-50% of police shootings are by black suspects, are they wrong to be on guard.
They are wrong if they treat people differently based on race, and wrong if they lie and utilize the blue wall to protect themselves.
No it is not even slightly reasonable when thousands of black suspects are arrested every single day without injury. According to the FBI there are about 1 million total arrests a months(all races), which result in 100 or so dead suspects, most of whom clearly earned the bullet they took. (There will always be a few exeptions, but we are talking about a handful)