What's Wrong With Speed?

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Keep in mind I know absolutely nothing about you nor your wife. But in general, men weigh more than women. I’m assuming you weigh more than your wife.

A very very general concept is that for every 1 lb of weight your body burns 12 calories to get by. So if you weigh 300 lbs., at rest you’re burning around 3,600 calories per day. (This isn’t an exact science but in general the variations from this are minor enough that for the sake of this discussion we can stipulate the numbers are correct, a lot of people will use a number other than 12 because how much you use per lbs. is directly related to how active you are, but that’s neither here nor there)

So if you and your wife are eating the exact same diet per day, let’s say 1,800 calories, (a common amount for people dieting, although women may eat a few hundred less–and also not a bad total calorie amount for an average sized man/woman who has an average activity rate whether you be dieting or not) then if you weigh more you’re creating a larger caloric deficit every day. You have to burn about 3,500 calories to lose a pound, so if you weigh 300 lbs after a single day of an 1,800 calorie diet you’re already at a deficit of 1800. Another day like that, and you’ve lost a pound. This is why really obese people, when they’re on an emergency weight loss diet because they are medically very dangerously obese lose immense amounts of weight very quickly (there is a double edged sword to creating such a deficit though, sometimes if your body is convinced it is starving it will intentionally become more efficient, obviously this will only stop weight loss so much, as the body can only become so efficient, but these changes in your body are why many dieters hit “plateaus” and think the diet no longer works.)

The best, albeit a slow and methodical way, to lose weight is to create about a 500 calorie deficit per day and to adjust how much you consume throughout your weight loss period on how much you weigh. You should eat more when you weigh 275 than you do when you weigh 250. Losing a lbs. a week is a very good rate, losing 52 lbs./year is nothing to laugh at.

Casual speed use is rather rare. That stuff is extremely addictive, and you’re taking a chance at a heart attack every time you take it. I’ve runt the gamut of drugs, have tried a great many things, and I’ll defend the use of some drugs, but speed just eats people alive. In my experience it’s easier to be a casual heroin user than a casual speed user.

Speed is disgusting horrible stuff. I would recommend staying away from it. If you want to understand speed, watch the movie Spun, it’s one of the most amazing portrayals of a drug on film ever, it makes you feel, well, Spun, and the best part is, the movie ends and you don’t have a chemical in your system keeping you that way for the next 12-30 hours.

Actually, we started off at the same weight - she’s a lot taller than I am. We were both 163 to start with. I’m now 143 and she’s 148, so it’s actually 20:15. However, she switched to a low-fat diet for a week, halfway through, which might have delayed her weight loss. I am also doing regular exercise, which probably accelerated mine.

I took speed a couple of times, but one time it did have an alarming effect on me - (TMI alert) my cock almost disappeared into my body. Imagine sitting in ice cold water for three hours, and the effect that would have. Then imagine if it was three times worse than that. It stayed that way for about twelve hours, until to my great relief the old chap re-emerged to its usual magnificent proportions.

Those were a long twelve hours, let me tell you, and I never touched the stuff again.

In my experience there is no such thing as a casual Speed user. Speed is highly addictive and quickly takes over ones whole life.

There are also no ex-addicts–just addicts that have enough will-power to (however temporarily) resist temptation.

Speed turns the user into a Sociopath. Getting the next 1/8 gram of Speed becomes the most important thing in their life. They have no problem lying, cheating and stealing for it because the need is more important than any other consideration. For this reason they burn through jobs then friends and lovers then relatives. ‘Tweakers’ that I’ve known have become good liars and con-men surprisingly quickly because of the ever increasing need for money to buy more. They become a danger to everyone they meet.

Speed users tend to binge. They keep doing more every time they start to come down until they run out and can’t get any more. During a binge they don’t sleep and thus don’t dream. Studies have shown that people need dreaming sleep and that if prevented they will start to dream while awake. This is more than just hallucinations–this is Psychotic Break. It seems to do permanent damage to their perceptions of reality, leading to true Psychosis and Paranoia.

I’ve known dozens of people who just tried Speed. I don’t know any of them any more.

If a friend of mine suspected that my lover was on speed and didn’t warn me I’d be really pissed when I found out. I speak from experience. A relationship with a loved one was almost ruined when I got badly burned by a Speed-freak that she could have warned me about. The psycho-bitch convinced her that she didn’t do it any more. (She did, of course.)

Thank you for sharing your experiences. Every time I hear something like this, though, I have to wonder how much confirmation bias plays a role in your perceptions. You don’t have the experience of knowing casual speed users, perhaps, because you don’t know that those who remain casual speed users are using speed. Do you know what your doctor does on the weekends? Your garbage man, your mayor? Every single person you come into contact with? No. And if some of them are casually using speed, you wouldn’t ever know it, and they don’t get stored in your mental data bank as casual speed users.

Now, I’m no fan of the stuff myself, mostly because of safety and purity issues around manufacture, and the whole being illegal and promoting other dangerous behaviors in the illegal drug trade. I haven’t used it - although I did use ephedra (which metabolizes into amphetamines in the body) and caffeine for weight loss/maintenance back when you could get it, and it was fabulous stuff. I likewise know a few people speed has seriously messed up. I also know people (more than the messed up people, in fact) who have remained casual users for more than a decade, while keeping a job and raising a family and all the normal stuff.

That says it all…

Speed kills.
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I’m with Hal Briston here. There’s a world of difference between, say, Benzedrine and Crystal Meth. Not that abusing Bennies is a good idea, but they’re not the soul destroying monster that meth is. Hell, college kids sometimes use them when deadlines loom. (Or at least they used to in my day. Nowadays they probably drink a lot of Red Bull.)

That’s a bunch of #$&(@. Everyone I knew in college took speed and we’re all fine upstanding citizens.

Hi everyone…I’m back! :slight_smile:

I’m a narcoleptic, and as such I have prescribed speed. Specifically, I take a dextroamphetamine, though I tried many different prescriptions before settling on this one.

Speed will not kill you, as long as you only use it when it is prescribed by a doctor, and you use it wisely. However, as a long-term user of Dexies, I find that I’ll only take 'em when it’s absolutely necessary, because as Nicepete said, you’ll be good and energized for a few hours, but man, when you come down, you come WAYYYYYY down. If I take a pill two days in a row, I’ll be far more exhausted than usual for three days after that.

I’m currently rehearsing for Evil Dead the Musical, and so I’m taking a Dexie on each of my rehearsal days just so I have the energy to do the dancing, but holy crap, my weekends suck.

Larry Borgia The problem is that Benzedrine is difficult to procure and Crystal Meth is easy to procure.

Rich Mann My ex-girlfriend loved speed, a good friend of hers was a dealer, she had it all the time and would come over and we’d do speed all the time. I did it with her for about a month, multiple times a week. We freebased it and snorted it. I got tired of doing it and told her not to come over if she was on speed or coke, sort of ended the relationship. I spent a day detoxing with very depressing withdrawals, but I haven’t done it since, and have no desire to. While I got physically addicted I wouldn’t consider myself an addict, because I didn’t have any sort of habitual mental craving for it.

I can understand the appeal of something like speed in small doses, you can get your studying done, do all the work around your house, lose weight, etc. I’ve taken Adderall before when I had to study for exam, and I can safely say I will never do that again. I mean staying up for a day and a half is bad but I can’t imagine the people who stay up for nearly a week.

Back in my day, the opposite was true.

Amphetamines

I can do the stuff and just walk away from it. I’ve done the true amphetamines (we called them “Black Mollies”) and Preludin. Then you’d see stuff called Black Mollies that was just caffeine I guess. It was horrid. I’ve snorted meth and smoked Ice. Just have a small amount, use it, and be done with it. Haven’t touched any of it in years even though I’m certain I could procure some tonight if I wanted it.

For anybody who claims meth “ain’t jack shit”, an anecdote. Don’t try this at home.

Years ago, I was partying and doing Qualuudes. I was about to pass out and was sinking fast. A guy at the party offered me a shot (injection)* of crank. Within seconds I was not only not about to pass out, but I was back on top and ready to party hardy. For another day or so. Extremely scary when you think back about it. You don’t think something that powerful won’t have any negative consequences?
*This was back before AIDS/HIV was hardly even heard of in smalltown USA, but hepatitus and other nasty things were certainly around. According to this timeline, the term AIDS had not even been coined by the CDC at the time. Never done anything that stupid since.

I’ve never known speed to mean anything but meth (I’m 26 - haven’t touched the stuff in almost 10 years).

Kids these days… :stuck_out_tongue:

Well, for one thing, he obsesses too much about his brother Rex.

If you are overweight, you may have high blood pressure. Speed could raise your blood pressure to levels that could cause a stroke. Very dangerous.