Seriously, what should our policy be regarding bestiality? We have laws against cruelty to animals, but does having sex with an animal automatically constitute cruelty? Does it make a difference if the animal appears to enjoy the experience?(No, seriously?)
[Hoping we can maintain a rational debate in between the inevitable jokes]
Let the chicken be on top.
If RoboDude ever invites me over for dinner, remind me not to go. :eek:
Did the chicken come first?
Robo, are you by chance a graduate of Texas A&M?
Don’t forget the duct tape.
[sub]trust me on this one.[/sub]
Why did the chicken cross the road?
To get away from RoboDude.
You have misunderstood the recipe.
Where it says “Bone one chicken” that doesn’t mean what you think it does…
In a (possibly) vain attempt to keep this in GD I’ll be serious.
I have had what some may call the good fortune to read a detailed submission to a webpage (so take validity at your own risk) outlining sex with…dolphins.
I have also read a sort of largish document on how to have sex with dogs.
As far as the dolphins go it was pretty much a male human on female dolphin sort of thing because the male’s penis had some, uh, unusual characteristics which would not allow pleasurable copulation with a human.
Anyway, and correct me if I’m wrong, but the average animal isn’t easy to, uh, bed (I would think). If they are going to participate in sexual acts I wouldn’t see it as abuse. I might wonder about the humans involved, but face it…a dolphin could easily swim away and, well, swinging in the breeze around a dog is a rather compramising position if you’re gonna think about pissing it off.
In other words, taboos be damned. Just don’t invite me over to dinner, as jmullaney so eloquently pointed out 
BTW, the first part of the thread title came from the title of a Bob Rivers song, not personal experience.
Ok, ok, enough ribbing. I’m not going to chicken out of this one. I hope you all feel sheepish now for making all those dumb jokes.
Robodude, sex with anyone or anything that cannot clearly communicate consent is wrong in my book. With humans we have decided that fully informed consent cannot be given by children under a certain age, regardless of how much they might enjoy it. Now, admittedly, Fido likely doesn’t have the emotional hangups we humans have, but to use an animal for one’s own sexual gratification, regardless of the animal’s gratification, is unhealthy at least and actively harmful at worst.
Andros, I trust you are a vegetarian, then. I mean, regardless of the animals pleasure we shouldn’t have sex with them? Then, regardless of the animals lack of pain, we shouldn’t kill them to eat.
As well, I’d ask to not bring “chilren” analogies in here as that has been a pretty tightly debated topic as well and can only cloud the issue. But, it ain’t my thread and I can’t stop you
“Lassie? Lassie? What’s wrong, girl? Is it Timmy? Has he fallen down the well? WHAT!!?! He did WHAT!?!”
It occurs to me that bestiality isn’t exactly a fetish. I’m sure it occurs, but primarily as an improved form of masturbation, simulating the real thing, or voyueristic degradation of women. I just haven’t seen any Penthouse style crotch shots of chickens or sheep.If our society finds it unacceptable for animals in the circus to perform tricks…
Oh please. You want I should fight strawmen now? Firstly, it’s a false analogy. Fucking animals != eating them, and sexual gratification != eating to live. Secondly, unless you can measure an animal’s pleasure in human terms, you cannot derive any scale to determine when it’s ok to screw Sparky. And you cannot do that. Sure, maybe one can tell when a dog is enjoying himself, but a chicken? Further, if the animal is physically harmed in the process of your getting your rocks off, you are engaged in nothing more than torture. That pretty much lets chickens out, and bunnies, and some sheep, and some dogs. I’m not making a slippery-slope argument here, but where are you drawing the line?
Grienspace, you might be surprised. There are plenty of folks out there who claim to have honest-to-ghod relationships with their pets, with emotional bonding and lots of sex. There are folks out there who cannot be aroused except by an animal. That’s the definition of fetish right there. Hell, there’s an entire subculture of people who fuck stuffed animals. I’m not going to post any links, but a trip to the Stile project will turn up some, I’m sure.
You’re joking I trust.
Unfortunately, no. Ick.
Not entirely. On “Disturbing Behavior Caught on Tape” I once saw a video of a night watchman doing it with a pinata.
Move to Missouri, my friend. It is currently legal to molest your pets there. In fact, cockfighting, was just outlawed in Missouri. By the way, intercourse or other sexual acts with animals is horribly cruel and sick.
My Uncle Gordie was a meteorologist in the high arctic in the days when there were a few one-person stations staffed on six month shifts, and only in communication during scheduled fly-overs. In addition to canned food, the isolated station staff were issued a few chickens each season.
So one dark season Gordie was happily receiving regular reports from a fellow at one of these stations, when after a couple of months the fellow mentioned that he had to keep the report brief because he had to go dancing with “Gladys”. Gordie figured the fellow was just joshing, and really just wanted to sign off for some benign reason.
As the season went on, the fellow started talking about going out on dates with “Gladys”, and of what a wonderful companion she was. One fly-by he said that he had proposed to “Gladys”, and that she had accepted. Gordie figured the fellow had an imaginary friend, and was gradually going off the deep end.
Well, Gordie was partly correct. The fellow was going off the deep end, but his lady friend was not imaginary. “Gladys” was one of the chickens with which he had been supplied.
Sadly, there was no fairytale ending to this situation. The fellow was shipped out and locked away. “Gladys” was stewed.