I understand that the attitudes toward women are out of date, but can anyone help me figure out this Wikipedia entry?
I went in there yesterday and did some editing to make it more concise and less negatively biased, more like an encyclopedia entry should be. Today I went back to work on it more and some other user had restored all that negative junk in there. Not only is it poorly written, but it sounds like nothing but one individual’s opinion. I realize this show is outdated in the way it treats certain topics but I really don’t think it is evil, like whoever wrote this does.
I was able to access the articles history and it does seem to be one user who is consistenly reverting it to portray the show in a negative light.
Eesh. If only the bee in his bonnet was a spelling bee. (Do they have grammar, punctuation, a concision bees?)
It’s pretty clear that the subsections “Morally Upstanding, Morally Questionable, Attitude towards weapons,” and “Attitude towards women” are written by one person. Incoherent and inappropriate.
I don’t Wiki. Is there a reason that someone so manifestly incapable is allowed to play?
I think Andy Griffith is a bit dated, of course- impossible not to be- STAR TREK came along later and was set 500 years in the future and it’s dated- but I’ve never once heard it called “morally questionable”.
Actually, it was a little ahead of it’s time in a couple of ways:
-Andy’s girlfriends worked in professions (pharmacist, teacher) and clearly weren’t just killing time til they found a man (compare this to Dick Van Dyke, where hilarity ensued if Mary got a job).
-It respectfully addressed issues of poverty (the family Andy takes into the jail) and alternative lifestyles (the Darlin’s)
-It portrayed a positive image of a southern town and a law enforcement official who wasn’t unrealistically dealing with a murder a week in a city with a population of 4,000
-Andy had to deal with the issue of dating a woman who was richer and smarter than he was (though she was only seen in one episode)
Compared it to its spin-off, Gomer Pyle, where I can think of at least two episodes in which the moral seemed to be “women are to be submissive” (one featured Carol Burnett as a man-crazy officer and the other was about Lou Ann Poovy [who had the most psychotic expressions I’ve ever seen on a character- I wonder whatever happened to the actress]) and a total pacifist is training to be a Marine and remains in basic training for 21 years, it seems almost like postmodern gritty realism.
Everyone (barring very very few exceptions) is allowed to play. The people in charge feel that the number of people who will fix incorrect information outweights those who will vandalize the place.
See any number of previous wikipedia threads here for more discussion about this effect.
I went back in and edited out the retarded parts of that. If you got here to late to read them all you need to do is click on the History tab at the top of Wiki page and you can see what was removed.
Or you can wait until this nutjob comes back and puts it all back in again. From looking at the history of that article it seems that is what usually happens when someone tries to edit that page.
Maybe it’s the Vicondin, or maybe it’s that I’ve just arisen from a nap brought on by the same; but I’m not seeing the ‘morally questionable’ section. What’s the quote?
Sorry. In my previous post above I mentioned that I went in and edited the page. To read that section click on the “History” tab at the top of the page and look at the last post from someone named Hackwrench and you will be able to read it.
I’ve said it before on these boards but it bears repeating. It happened when Andy dumped cute little cupcake Ellie and married that hectoring, pursed-lipped harridan, Helen Crump. She sucked the air right out of that series.
Not only was it morally questionable, it drove away Barney, stifled Opie and was hell on earth for Aunt Bea.
Clever, but they didn’t actually marry until the first episode of Mayberry R.F.D. but I do rather agree with your preference for Ellie as Andy’s girlfriend.
Oh, since I edited that page here is a link to the old page with the lame brained stuff still intact.
Otis gets an intervention- that could have been hysterical, especially with Barney leading it. Or Otis’s affirmations- “I’m good enough, I’m smart enough, and damn in Barney I still say that picture looks like a spider! Gimme a drink I’m officially relapsing for the weekend!”
He was clean and sober in the 1986 reunion movie at least.
How all would you “morally correct” Mayberry? Let’s see:
-Aunt Bea needs to take an Empowerment through Sexuality course and learn that she’s more than a cook
-Ernest T. should be arrested for stalking Romena and forced into a sensitivity training course (where he’ll also get his GED and be placed on psychotropic meds)
-Opie should be taught that even if they’re wearing silver hats and live in trees, older male strangers are dangerous and should be avoided at all cost
-When Opie killed the mama bird he should have been sent away to a PETA run Reeducation camp
-When Floyd told the wealthy widow he was a wealthy widower, Andy should have attempted to contact Floyd’s inner child and find out what issues would lead him to be unsatisfied and help him on the path to fulfilment