Another point, if I may
Despite what the law (or the dictionary) says, you don’t pay a prostitute for sex. You pay a prostitute to leave afterward. Therefore the girl in the OP is not a prostitute.
Another point, if I may
Despite what the law (or the dictionary) says, you don’t pay a prostitute for sex. You pay a prostitute to leave afterward. Therefore the girl in the OP is not a prostitute.
Here’s another question: Was she being paid directly by the executive, or was she a company employee? Does that make a difference in the distinction between gold-digging and prostitution?
I’d say if she was an employee of the company, that she was more of a prostitute than a gold-digger. If she’s just a mistress, that’s a pretty standard position, and not really prostitution as such.
Think of how the relationship could end – if she’s a mistress, she could sue for palimony. Prostitutes can’t do that. However, if she’s an employee, she could claim unemployment and sue for sexual harassment. Prostitutes can’t do that, either.
Well I was really responding to the first sentence where you said there was a difference.
Generally when you are having sex on camera you are having sex with someone. I think we may be pretty close with our definitions but I think the ONLY difference beteen prostitution and porn is legality. If you go to a few counties in Nevada that isn’t even true and I think they are exactly the same. Heck I understand you can go to some of the brothels and have sex with a porn star.
Please don’t get me wrong here either, I don’t think either of them are “wrong” in a moral sense. I think as long as someone isn’t being coerced into prostitution that it should be legal.
This actually made me laugh. ‘having sex with a stranger for money’ wasn’t just ‘like’ what she had just done, it was EXACTLY what she had just done.
Exactly. Buthers, bakers, prostitutes, candlestick makers, lawyers, lawnmowers, all are either merchants selling goods or professionals selling services. The distinction between them is simply which goods or which services.
Anyone who thinks they’re not trading something for sex each and every time they have sex, is kidding themselves. This is just as true in marriage as out.
I wasn’t able to find the video but I wasn’t able to spend much time looking and my google-fu is weak. From what I remember though the “It was like having sex with a stranger for money.” line went along with the rest of her demeanor. This is just my opinion but it seemed like the experience removed any glamour from the idea of working in the porn industry and left just exactly what it was, “having sex with a stranger for money.”
This is not the same statement as your original one:
This is not quibbling, it is necessary for clarity of argument. “A is like B” or “A is one kind of B” is NOT the same statement as “A is the same as B” or “we’re ALL A”. By the standards of the original statement, then we would as well say we are ALL butchers, bakers, etc
If what you were, apparently, trying to say is that IYO, we are all just the same as prostitutes, butchers, bakers, etc., then that’s another story and I *can *work with that:
Though under the most efficient model, I’d optimally be trading the sex I want from her for the sex she wants from me. Harder to accomplish than it seemed at first
As referenced by msmith537, “prostitution” as a term brings in not only its tie-in with the emotionally-loaded issue of sex, but also its secondary definition being that of sale or trade of skills “for unworthy purposes”, which of course kinda hangs on “unworthy according to who??”.
Well yes she is, he’s paying her rent to keep her away.
Ergo, it’s not prostitution. She’s a mistress.
I think you’re reading too much into my first sentence. We agree one is legal and one isn’t. That’s a difference. One is for the buyer’s personal gratification, the other is for resale and profit. I could come up with lot’s of superficial differences, which is all I meant. I didn’t mean that there is a fundamental difference, in fact I attempted go on to make the point that there isn’t. So when I said there are differences, I really did mean ones that are trivially obvious - not that they necessarily need to be viewed as fundamentally different.
Confirmation bias? Like the female I got into a discussion with one time who was convinced that most road-menders are female, since she knew more women who mended roads than men who did, this may reflect more on your peer-group than society in general. Leastwise, most guys I know are the principal breadwinners in their household.
Dunno if it’s insulting, but the official phrase is “smarter than me”. :smack:
How many human societies have been more accepting of female promiscuity?
OK, I think you have hit on what the difference in our opinion is. We agree that one difference is that one is legal and one isn’t. Of course that’s not true everywhere, some counties in Nevada for instance. The rest of the differences you list really have nothing to do with whether it is prostitution or not.
If you sell sex for money you are a prostitute. Male or female.
I suppose if you agree with that we really have no differnce of opinion.
I don’t doubt it. It’s just odd when to hear grumbling about gold diggers whens o many women I know are cleaning up career-wise. Reminds me a bit of Seinfeld when George asks for a pre-nup and Susan points out that she makes more money.
Well, this is way out there, I know, but maybe the gold-digging phenomenon goes on in a different social circle than the one you’re used to?