What’s interesting is that people think this issue has a damn thing at all to do with ignorance.
Originally Posted by Jodi
This is why I never mention my spectacular boobs in public.
I saw that too, but let it go, I’m in enough trouble as it is
Hey, baby! Check out this stimulus package! {Thrusts hips lewdly}
No you did not. But you did miss a split infinitive which means that this thread is guaran-damn-teed to go on for another six pages at least unless the grammar police are out having donuts. Or shortbread with man-berries.
>shakes fist at sky< damn you, &etc.
The more the merrier.
Boobs, that is.
As long as it’s equal opportunity about male-female boobs, otherwise you are objectifying and being sexist.
(have I got that right?)
You show me your split infinitive, and I’ll show you my dangling participle.
There’s nothing wrong with splitting an infinitive. Just because you can’t physically do it in Latin doesn’t mean you shouldn’t in English.
To the OP: I posted what I did because it occurred to me that you might not have any siblings, in which case you might have missed the dynamic going on. In the interim it has once more become abundantly apparent that, lo, you have missed it so completely as not to occupy the same time zone that it does.
That being the case: defining issues in such a way that the other person must accept their Fundamental Wrongness and also your Fundamental Rightness (not to mention shouldering responsibility for all the other wrongs you have suffered) is not an approach which lends itself to resolution of same. At least, not to positive resolution.
See? I knew that would happen.
RNATB: You’d be surprised at what I can physically do in Latin. Come on over when I get together with His Lordship over there.
As long as I have my infinitive out I might as well take it for a spin around the block.
I’ve been mulling over man berries myself.
But I don’t really want to.
The thoughts just won’t go away…
There’s a comparison I could have done without.
Why, you reprobate pachydermist! Stop staring at her firm pink elephants! Can’t you see the lady’s sensitive about them?
I barely fit item number one, quite possibly fit item number two–except when I don’t, and am unsure about item number three.
I don’t particularly want bawdy or lewd humor but I generally deal with it by ignoring it/avoiding threads which contain excessive amounts.
I’m not sure I’d be comfortable with some of the posts which Tracy Lord has gotten in response to her advice threads–but I do recognize that to a certain extent she has brought it on herself. Certainly I agree with the posts which suggest that her reaction has caused people to identify where some of her buttons are located and people on the internet love poking buttons.
At a minimum-- persons who want to promote the idea that they’ve got class or decorum would be ahead to not bring their own “amazing boobs” into conversation, no matter how innocently.
But she did and discussion has ensued. What has been done can not be undone. But I’m not seeing any examples of horrible, horrible sexism in the comments which Tracy has complained about. Rather I see some attempts at teasing and/or flirtation which Tracy has not appreciated. That is her right, but this thread has not garnered her more sympathy from my corner.
What do you put in mulled man berries? All the recipes I find include cardamon. I hate cardamon.
It’s just our veiled way of saying we want pictures, too.
I’m sorry, but your protests aren’t working for me.
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It’s not that people are thinking that the red wine stain shirt is all about your boobs (which is not how I’m reading the posts anyway). It’s that you mentioned your boobs, and now are expecting other people to not mention your boobs. Not fair, and even more so, not realistic. If you want to talk about your boobs, even as a throwaway comment in a thread on another subject, you need to realize that people will then talk about them.
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Now, I may be wrong about this because I’m not a writer or editor, but it seems to me that when you make a list of qualities, you generally go from the least important to the most important. Then you add in italics or other font changes to increase emphasis even more. Even though the original thread wasn’t really about your boobs, you sure made an effort to draw attention to them, is all I’m saying.
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Your definition of sexism and my definition of sexism seem to differ. My definition is “when someone brings up my sex or aspects of my sexual nature in a topic that does not have anything to do with sex, sexuality or sexual preference (especially in a derogatory or slighting manner)”. For example, if I ask a question in GQ about home repair and someone says “You’re just a woman, you wouldn’t understand”. Since meeting a cute guy is a topic of sexuality, your assertion that this was a sexist doesn’t pass my test. It seems to me that your definition of sexism means anytime someone talks about your sexual nature. If that’s the case, you might want to avoid threads that have anything to do with sexuality, such as the cute guy you just met.
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Let’s face it, sexuality is a large part of our being. We can mute it for situations where it’s not appropriate, such as the workplace. And we can mute it where we don’t want to be treated as a sexual being. But acting as a sexual being, then insisting that other people mute their sexuality to make you more comfortable is not fair.
4b. People who are sexually attracted to women almost always like boobs, and that liking is pretty deep down in the lizard brain. If you say the word “boobs”, you’ve just turned on that lizard brain. If you mention boobs, don’t be surprised when you end up dealing with some rather scaly creatures.
As a card-carrying member of the Big Boob Brigade, I can understand how frustrating it can be when people treat you like a body part. I get frustrated that there is very little middle ground between clothes that make me look fat, or clothes that make me look like I should be standing on a street corner with a bag of quarters. I have one necklace that is lovely. The first time I wore it to work, my favorite co-worker spent the day talking to my chest. I’ve never worn it to work since, because even though I don’t see it as a sexy necklace, the response I got said otherwise. Thus, if I want to be treated as a professional person at work, I leave it at home.
Because this is common victim behavior in a drama triangle, and engaging in such behavior tends to draw out persecutors.
One more thing - if you don’t want to be treated as a sexual person, try googling your user name and considering a name change.
If i casually mention my charlie browns in a thread will that make people start talking about them? cause that’d be awesome.
Like I said earlier, sometimes we can cross a line we didn’t know was there. It could be being over familiar, good natured joking, gentle teasing.
Like I also said, the “target” of the teasing has the right to say “shut your damn mouth” (or STFU). That is when any person of good sense will back off.
What is so complicated about this??!!??!!??
The lady wants us to STFU about it. let’s just DO that.
How DARE you bring sensibility and politeness into this! Who exactly do you think you are? I mean, the lady opened the door to boob talk by mentioning why she loved her stained shirt so much and BY GOD it is now their right to continue it until they grow tired of it.