When Karma Knocks

The BBQ Pit
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No one wants to say KARMA…

WHY?

America is the land of the self indulgent buttheads… but no, we pray for a place where this isn’t so. We refuse to deal with the world as a whole… we won’t cut back on our SUV’s because, DAMN IT! It will hurt our economy… we tell the entire world to piss off on greenhouse gasses because, hell, we just love our SUV’s and other cars… fuck the world… it will hurt US if we make people pay the TRUE cost of driving… I mean, no more soaking alcohol or smokes for the funds to drive… let’s make gasoline pay for the roads… tax the shit out of it and make it about 5 bucks a gallon… but no… we can’t do THAT!!!

How will SUV drivers pay for the fact that their vehicles only get about 15 MPG? How can we make these poor, rich, people pay for their status symbols? That would be down right un-American to make them pay their fair share… No, no, you, me and the rest of us need to continue to use our tax money to subsidize gas so that these rich people don’t have to pay their fair share… anything else would be un-American! Go ahead! Put your flag on one of the gas guzzling hogs… let everyone know that you are going to continue to support the rich! Let your colors proudly flow as they waste tons of gas!

Hey, we’re American’s, right? That’s what we do… bust our humps for the rich… and do our best to imitate them… come on… how many of you have an SUV that sucks more gas than four other cars combined? How many of you who don’t have one WANT and LUST after one??? The bigger the better, right? And hey, everyone is subsidizing your gas bill so you’re okay!

How many of you are afraid that if Gas was 5 a gallon that would mean that the more you drive, the more you pay! That would mean making those who use the roads pay for them… this is truly insane! Make those who drink or smoke pay for them… that seems just… that way we can continue to subsidize SUV use…

Oh, I just fucking LOVE how AMERICA operates!

Just keep on putting your token Flags on these SUV’s… go ahead… they are what makes us great… or what makes us a damn bunch of suckers…

your call…

Byz

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…I thought Father John had been banned. ::confused::

Checks OP’s name again.

You guys all subscribe to a newsletter or something, don’t you?

Fenris

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So your arguement is that for the sin of wasting gas and adding pollution to the planet 5,000 people (and most of those in New York who probably took mass transit to work) deserved to die?

I suggest you rethink this. I don’t belive that karma is a blind vicious bitch.

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Holy shit ,Byz- I hope you’re kidding…
???
Zette

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I don’t even have an SUV…
:o

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Ah yes. SUV owners. That is what this war boils down to.

How could I have been so blind.

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Fenris, you ignorant slut! I slap you hard, left to right… do you NOW remember me?

I know what you are implying… did you really read what I posted? I don’t think so if you can compare me to him… I’m really shocked… but maybe I shouldn’t be. Everyone, on the boards, prays for the fact that this isn’t so… why? No one wants to confront this reality… why? You yourself peg me as an extremist… why?

I didn’t say anyone “deserved” this or anything even remotely similar… not a whisper… I only posed the question of why… I guess you, and all, won’t answer. Honey, I lost 4 pals in the hard blast of this… you think I take this lightly? Like somehow, to me, it’s just a big fucking joke or something? It’s not. My question is honest, from the heart…

I want to know, this is what is in my head. I mean no disrespect… I just have this in my head… and yeah, I want some fucking answers. Call me a bitch, call me an ex-patriot… call me what ever you need to… Just call me real. For I AM myself. And I can do no less. If I didn’t ask, if I never wondered… I just wouldn’t be me…

And trust me, sugar, right now? It really sucks to be me. You can’t even grasp my pain. But hey, that stops no one from blasting back. Do it. Fling it. Go.

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Fer God’s (or in Byz’s words, Goddess, like it fucking matters in my life), what the fuck are you saying?

I wasn’t rich, my Suburban was needed for my work, carrying people and carrying cargo. My 454 truck got my ass over Vail Pass in Colorado with windows loaded in my truck along with windows loaded in a trailer…what the fuck are you talking about.

My nieghbors have a Suburban, they have four children. A Suburban sure as hell is better than a fucking mini-van when you have a large family and/or a construction business, which they do…granted Dad has a Chevy 3/4 truck for the heavy duty stuff.

But what’s up with the sudden complaint an bitch about SUVs?

Not everyone that drives a truck or a Suburban is without need. Sorry, but having owned a Suburban, I know the cargo capacity along with the ability to carry people. So sorry Byz, get off the SUV – you people suck thing. You didn’t know my experience and I find your rant unworthy of ranting about. It’s been done.

You know I think about you in terms of the “bees knees” but FUCK…what is up with this.

If I so choose to drive a 17 mile per gallon vehicle (which BTW, the current vehicle I own only gets 23 miles per gallon and it’s a God damned Honda Accord for God’s sakes) then so be it.

If I choose to pay more in gas and YES an SUV owner with lower mileage will pay more in taxes than those with smaller vehicles…they pay there way with lower mileage on their vehicles, geez. I don’t get it, a person that has to fill up their 38 gallon tank with fewer miles per gallon will pay more in taxes, so what’s your fucking bitch? I mean really. I paid more for filling up my Suburban and running it than the simple little Honda than I run now.

Now, how do you propose we deal with the all the big rigs that are hauling two or three trailers on the end? Should we be all pissed off over that? I mean why can’t UPS hire more drivers to ensure their rigs aren’t THAT fucking big.

Geezus Byz, I dig you but this came out of the fucking blue and I don’t like it.

BTW, if I still had my Chevy 3/4 ton, ext cab, long bed, with a 454, manual tranny, I would gladly run past you and toot my horn in solidarity but this rant is pretty lame if you ask me.

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“Osama, they have paid us no heed. Still they purchase their Ford Explorers!”

“Hmm. Clearly we need to be a little more persuasive.”

…

Nope, can’t see it myself. I think there might be a wee bit more too it than that.

pan

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Oh, and for all the ??? and all why is it no one answers? Do I need to confirm it’s me? Okay, it’s me, folks, yeah, it’s me… but why can’t anyone address how the USA has acted on the world stage? Why do we blow everyone off? Why do we just isolate? WHY?

I hate SUV’s (like DUH, you didn’t get that) but why can’t we address them globally? Why is that? You think all these people around the world have no reason for hating us… shit… We won’t do anything for anyone but ourselves… I’m not saying we all deserved it but damn it! Why can’t we see the world? Why are we so into contemplating our own fucking navel?

American isn’t a global power anymore… we’ve made it damn clear to the world we are in it for US… I really was amazed that so many took the time to grieve with us… but count that as the most they will give… face it… what the hell have we done for them?

They say they are behind US and I believe them, they are behind us (hiding behind us) as soon as the blood flows we will see them blow… just as we have done to them… and how can we expect any different?

Explain to me. Show me I’m wrong. Show me I’m clueless… show me… for in this moment… I am hopeless with it all. I have no hope for I feel we’ve burned so many bridges… give me some hope for I have none…

What can I offer to all? My words? Ha ha ha! I have nothing to offer… and that makes me saddest of all…

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BTW Byz, if paying $5.00 a gallon is your solution, WE ALL ARE PAYING MORE…can you see the ill of your words? If the gas went up from what they are now to $5 a gallon, EVERYONE would pay more economy cars to SUVs we all pay more…What does that have to do with SUV drivers?

Sheesh hun, I hope you are well as I haven’t seen you around but this rant is pretty strange coming from you.

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Okay Byz, now I am really concerned about you…your OP was against SUVS (from what I saw, call me crazy) but now you are going on a tangent…are you okay, do you need someone to talk to. This isn’t like you Byz, not at all.

You have me fearful for what you thinking and feeling. If I have to I will email an admin and have them get a hold of you as this is not like you at all.

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…um…Byz, I really thought you were kidding and was kidding back, hence the “subscribe to a newsletter” comment.

Fenris

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Well, I don’t want to get sucked into a nasty SUV debate (been there, done that), but maybe I’ll take a look at a compact car for my husband. He’s a professional musician who hauls gear back and forth to gigs. I guess he wouldn’t mind making a few trips with the hatchback open.

I am still completely baffled as to what SUVs have to do with the WTC bombing.

And, as long as I’m talking about SUVs, why SUVs are worse then a huge pickup truck? (Or are they the same in the SUV haters eyes?)

Maybe it’s because I live in the country and actually use an SUV for it’s intended purpose, but I just do not get the arguements at all.

Whatever.

Zette

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Byz,

I’m having a hard time understanding you. Perhaps this isn’t the best time for you to be having this discussion. Go for a walk. Look for shapes in the clouds as they roll across the sky. Stay away from the chaos of the world till you refind your center.

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I’m closing this thread.

It’s a difficult time for all of us wherever we are and we need to be more patient with each other and more considerate, too.

your humble TubaDiva
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