Well, it was mooted at one time, but the sheep kept drowning. Turns out that Jonah thing was allegorical.
It’s a bloody message board. If you aren’t allowed to assume people mean what they say, what the hell’s the point? I mean here you are, taking Hyperelastic’s words at face value, when for all you know he could really be a Red Flag-singing socialist, face still black with coal dust from his days down t’ mine. Preposterous.
I’ll celebrate. Nothing too outrageous - just a glass of malt whiskey and a few songs* on the MP3
- ‘Waves of Tory’ - Red Shift
‘Walking in a Wasted Land’
‘Can’t Win’
‘Mother Knows Best’ - Richard Thompson
‘Sorrow/Babylon is Fallen’ - The Home Service
My former psychiatrist had some interesting British connections. I couldn’t very well question him about them, but he did have interesting photos around and a story or two to tell from time to time. So I assume that when he talked of Margaret Thatcher, he had some first hand knowledge of her.
He said that she was an incredibly strong-willed person and almost always got her way. If she was told “no” about something, she might seem to accept that, but in a short time she would have managed to turn that round and twisted that into a “perhaps” and then a “yes, of course.” (I’m paraphrasing his words.) And she managed to accomplish this almost without the other person being aware of what she was doing. She simply willed it to be so and thus made it so.
I’m sure that you’ve read novels or seen movies where the words “It is written” take on a great significance. I’ve long imagined that Margaret Thatcher was the one who actually wrote those things into law – or carved them in stone.
I haven’t addressed her politics at all. I wouldn’t have liked them. But I find her strength and character fascinating.
Any odds at all that you could take your hijack in the general direction of another thread? I mean, you still won’t get any satisfaction (as there’s precisely cock all chance of the inhabitants deciding they want to be Argentinian citizens) but at least there you can rant and rail on about it to your hearts content without mugging someone else’s thread?
Apologies if that’s junior modding, been away for a while so can’t remember the guidelines.
With regards to the OP
Mourn is the wrong word, but closer to that than either apathy or rejoicing. She was a political colossus, and however you view her policies she was at least honest in her beliefs. I have to compare that favourably to the recent procession of dishonest incompetent wankwits endured since. She did much I disagree with, but at least she didn’t pretend she was helping you out when she was fucking you over (per Bush & Blair’s “Bringing peace to the world through the invasion of another country” or “restricting your freedom to protect your way of life from the terrorists”)
Don’t forget the ice cream!
I’ve not check this for a few days.
So I guess we never did find out under what rules/laws/whatever the waters all the way out to the Falkland Islands have “always been Argentinean”. My guess it was either the rule of “nationalism is always right” or “pulleth outeth my arseth”.
That’s… pretty awful actually. That might be worse than all the political stuff she’s done. I mean, citizens are pretty much bound to be screwed over by the government, one way or another, but reducing one of life’s simple pleasures to increase the bottom line? That’s just vile.
It certainly fits her philosophy, though…
I like your style.
Another song for the playlist: http://www.compsoc.man.ac.uk/~moz/lyrics/vivahate/margaret.htm
Sorry to dredge up an old thread of mine but I was rereading it because I saw a picture of Lady T in the paper recently, a portrait of a puffy-faced old woman sitting on a park bench. She totters on in her dotage, a figure of decreasing faculties and increasing irrelevance (as I suppose we all become at that stage). Do those who hated her still feel the same three years on?
There’s also this prescient tidbit:
I haven’t seen The Iron Lady but I understand that it was indeed a hell of a premise for some aspiring writer.
And finally it’s also interesting to read this thread in light of the new burblings about the Falklands, which is of particular concern when one considers that the Royal Navy has been seriously gutted over the intervening years including the loss IIRC of all aircraft carriers. It’d be a very different war this time around - the US would have to step in, but one wonders if the UK would have any better luck persuading them to now than they did then.
No. Not sad. Some level of justice for what she did to Britain.
Raise your hand if you thought the thread resurrection meant she passed.
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I have a google alert set so that I get notices every time certain words come up, in this case ‘Thatcher dead or dies’, so that I can spend the rest of the day with copious quantities of alcohol, celebrating.
Unfortunately, there’s a play based on the premise and lots of forum threads and blogs devoted to the subject, so I’ve become a little jaded. So no, I didn’t think she was dead. But one of these times, she will be. That will be a day to remember.
I was about to open the champagne :(.
Yeah, sorry to get your hopes up.
Thatcher’s Britain was further to the left than Carter’s America. Or Obama’s for that matter.
Comparative advantage.
I’m by no means defending Obama, but in the UK, the party or coalition that controls parliament selects the head of government. So the head of government will always (bar lunacy that ensures even the whips will give up) get their reforms through. She managed to drag both the country as a whole and Labour (per their revoking section 4) rightwards. Obama on the other hand presided for half of his term over a legislature of his political opponents.