When parents try to be hip

My mother is well-intentioned but fairly clueless. Now in her early 50’s (twenty years older than I), she makes, and has always made, regular attempts to “connect” with me on what she thinks is appropriate for my generation and worldview. Unfortunately, more often than not, she just comes off as, well, kinda dorky. I can’t decide whether her positive intent in trying to relate to her kid overshadows the embarrassment I feel for the resulting inadvertent foolishness. Of course, I just play along; it would be mean to call her out on her dorkiness. Besides it usually provides a funny story for later, so I really can’t complain. :slight_smile:

Case in point: Years ago, when I was in high school, she met at some school event a classmate I had befriended. He was rather flamboyantly out of the closet, a rather brave stance for a freshman at a conservative rural school. “I think it’s neat that you’re friends with him,” said my mom later. That impressed me. But she continued: “I like going to <a dive nightclub in town>, because we get to watch the gay guys kissing in the corner booths.” I honestly don’t remember how I responded, because I was too busy repressing what I wanted to say, which was: “HNGWUH?

A few years later, after graduating and leaving for an out-of-town college, I brought my girlfriend home for a weekend visit during my freshman year. We didn’t flaunt the fact that we were sexually active, but we weren’t circumspect either: She stayed in my room, we showered together, and so on. At one point during the weekend, my mom got a moment alone with me. “She’s very cute,” she said, which naturally I agreed with. “Listen,” she continued. “If you ever need any, y’know, sexual advice, you can always ask–” her husband of a few years, my stepfather, a definite improvement over my biological father. And her eyes lit with a disturbing light: “He’s very good.” Again, I don’t remember exactly how I responded, because I was trying really hard not to say what I was actually thinking: “AAUUUEEEWWWGGHHH. Jesus, Mom, don’t invite me to imagine you getting nailed. Goddamn.”

Recently, she’s started to going to bars and nightclubs to hear blues bands performing live. (This isn’t as funny or weird as the above. It’s what got me thinking about the subject, though.) I’d applaud that, but given my mother’s notorious lack of taste (she wanted to serve cocktail weenies on toothpicks at my wedding, for example), I wasn’t sure what to expect. Turns out I was right to question it. As she invited me and my wife to come along, and talked about how much she was enjoying her newfound fascination, I asked if she was a fan of Robert Cray. Nice, safe choice, I thought, prominent and mainstream and, as a bonus, from Seattle, for a local connection. Nope: She wrinkled her nose. “He’s too, uh, extreme for us,” she said. I got to hear a CD she had picked up at a show; this stuff just barely qualifies as the blues. It’s more like country-and-western with heavy drums, slightly edgier guitar work, and raspy-voiced singers. But no, she thinks it’s “dirty bar blues.”

Yeah, yeah, I know, it’s the job of parents to embarrass their kids, and there will always be a generational chasm. My question, though, is, why don’t parents realize this? Do you guys have similar stories? How do you cope?

I’m a parent; the Little Rs are 12 and 14-going-on-fifteen, so they doubtless think their dad is the least hip person on the planet. But it’s like this:

You want to protect them; you don’t want them to get into trouble; you want them to know that they can come to you if they have problems. So you have to maintain a rapport. Teenagers are the most self-centered people on the planet, and the least secure; they aren’t going to reach out to you; you’re going to have to do the reaching. And doing that reaching means trying to understand their culture. And trying to understand means that you’re going to make some boners; and you have to accept that you’re going to look stupid, and you have to accept that and keep on trying to connect.

Second, there’s those memories of when they thought you were the greatest person in the world, and how effortlessly you talked to them when they were 7 or 8 or 9. And you want that to go on, you don’t want to lose that connection to the greatest kids in the world. So you try to keep that rapport, and again, you’re going to screw up, and you’re going to look comically un-hip every now and then. But you do it anyway, because you love them.

Heh. God bless my old-ass parents (40+ years my senior), who didn’t even TRY to be “hip” when I was a kid. They were damn proud of their dorkiness.

Sure, there were moments when I longed to have cooler parents, who would let kids call them by their first names, who would let me go out more than twice a month and stay out past 10:00, who were not convinced that every single song on the radio (examples include “Wake Me Up Before You Go Go”) were advocating drug use and that I was up to something every time I told them I needed to go to the library (because every parent knows that the “Library Lie” is just a cover used by kids who want to go smoke pot and make out with boys) and who didn’t think a black prom dress was entirely inappropriate . . .

But know what? Ironically, they were the favorite parents among my friends; they fed them, housed them (when they got kicked out of the house by their own parents), counseled them, and sent them care packages even after we all dispersed across the country to separate colleges.

And, most importantly, they NEVER tried to compare notes with me when it came to sex! :eek: :stuck_out_tongue:

Hey auntie em! Are we siblings? My dad was 40 years older than me - my mom 38. And they never made any attempt to be hip.

Nor do I. My kids are 11, 13, and 15. And I’m 42. It is woefully apparent what an incredible fuddy duddy I am. Heck - I feel that way compared to most folk in their 20s!. So it would be foolish to pretend otherwise.

Which is not to say I never embarrass my kids. But just not from trying to appear cool.

I am finding myself better able to get along with my kids and their peers as they get older. I was thinking about this just the other day. The kids in my fencing club seem to have aged a couple of years. They now have interests that they can discuss intelligently. And they respond very favorably when I show the slightest of familiarity/interest in them. Whether they be music, D&D, school, social activities, whatever.

Same with my nieces and nephews. I enjoy them more - and I flatter myself to hope thy reciprocate - as they are getting older.

With my kids, we have placed such an emphasis on talking about anything and everything, that not too much would surprise or embarrass them. Tho I cannot IMAGINE discussing my or their mother’s specific sexual performance with them.

he. My mom was always saying the most absurd things (which I’m afraid we have never let her live down to this day) while trying to be hip.

Some of you may remember when the word “diss” became popular slang. You know, “don’t be dissin’ my homies” and all? Now, being two Jewish kids who moved to a yuppie Brooklyn neighborhood from the wilds of Kansas, me and my brother were about as far from Homies as one can get. Seriously, I read The Wall Street Journal Marketplace section over breakfast. But my mom was always busting out with questions like:

“any plans this weekend? Are you going to meet up with your posse?”

Not joking, that still makes me crack up when I think about it. I did try to explain to them at some point that I did not have, nor would I ever have, a “posse,” anymore than I’d be joining forces with DJ Jazzy Jeff to cut a rap record. Didn’t take.

Another family favorite was the phrase, “why are you being dissful?” Usually after we had declared something to be lame.
(Dissful being the adjectival form of the verb “to diss” I guess).

My brother and I still joke about being “dissful” all the time.

Ah mom, she meant well. She really thought she was trying to “talk our language.”

Nope.

My parents were cool, even if I did have a Real Live Curfew, and other nasssssty rulessss. I occasionally had trouble with the fact that in some cases, my parents were waaaay cooler than I was.

I’m trying to maintain that with my kids. :slight_smile: When I embarass them, it’s on purpose, 'cause it’s my job. After all, that’s what they deserve for making a liar out of me since practically their birth. :wink:

My 33 year old son brought his new girl friend all the way from PA over Christmas. He stayed in his old room and she got the guest room. That’s our way of staying hip. :stuck_out_tongue:

Wait a minute.

Your mother’s admission to hanging out in dives and a voyueristic interest in gay sex, and her off-hand endorcement of her new husband’s sexual prowess leaves you embarrassed and tongue-tied…but SHE’S the one who’s un-hip??? :slight_smile:

My parents never tried to make themselves seem any younger or hipper. OTOH, they did go out of their way to treat me like an adult and even cut me a fair amount of slack when I did “act my age.”

On the whole, that was more “hip” than any street slang could have been. (And a whole lot less absurd, to boot.)

This thread title just reminds me of when my dad would try to act cool with me and he would always say “I’m Hep to the groove man, I’m Hep” That what I get for having an ex-beatneck as a father.

and I meant to say “Hep” my dad didnt say “Hip”, he said “Hep”