Before this gets too far along (and before I get accused of trolling) my OP is 100% sarcastic. I mean, the Oprah interview hasn’t even been aired yet, for Chrissake, but this is always a prominent theme in repentent wrong-doer stories: ooh, the poor man (woman, vegetable, etc) has suffered much in making his painful confession, how much suffering do you sadistic judgmental observers expect, etc.?
In fact, I’m all for Lance Armstrong (and Pete Rose and others of that ilk) lining up first thing in the morning for a fifteen-minute stone-throwing session every day for the rest of their sad lives. The only thing these assholes are sorry for is that they got caught. Otherwise they’d gleefully be doping, cheating, lying out their asses every day.
Oh Lord does it feel good to make that confession! I thought someone would twig for sure by now.
The public at large has always enjoyed seeing people fall and this is no exception. While I have never been a cyclist fan or really thought twice about Armstrong, I do find the viciousness he is experiencing disproportionate to the good work he has done in the battle against cancer.
Yes he cheated as did most (all?) of his contemporaries
Yes he lied about it
Yes he not only lied but went on the offensive against the other cheaters
Yes he had a holier than thou arrogance
Guess what? That is 75% of all athletes and he has still done more good than most. He did not kill anyone, he did not commit any violent crimes and he did not harm children.
He cheated (and profited for sure) to pedal a bike faster and longer than anyone else and people are jealous as hell.
He should definitely have to pay back a lot of money
He should definitely be banned from the sport in any capacity
And, after other innocents, ruining their lives in the process. That is not like 75% of other athletes, and he deserves much more scorn and suffering. Livestrong doesn’t absolve him of any of that, and I don’t think he’ll recover from this.
Eh? he tried to destroy people, ruin them professionally and financially because they told the truth about him.
That is why he is being castigated. The article linked to by crotalus puts those points across very well.
He comes across as a vindictive bully, bent on revenge.
It would not surprise me at all if he uses the Oprah interview to extract even more retribution even as he himself confesses (whatever that carefully worded and selective confession looks like).
Interesting that Dick Pound raised the possibility of cycling being taken out of the Olympics if Armstrong implicates those close to top of the sport. If he is as vindictive as it seems I would imagine he’ll take the opportunity to smear the sport as much as possible. I mean, what difference does it make to him now? He can give Wiggins a pie in the face by proxy with very little additional risk to himself.
The saddest thing of all is that someone who could have been inspirational is reduced to such a cowardly act as an* Oprah *interview. Surely he can’t lack the self-awareness to see how this is being perceived? Surely this must be a conscious decision with the obvious conclusion that he is about a million miles away from wanting to give a full and frank confession and apology.
He has hard questions to answer, going on Oprah means he is determined to duck them…coward.
There was lots of doping, but it wasn’t universal. Some teams appear to have been clean, and had they faced Armstrong on a level playing field, its hardly obvious Armstrong would’ve won.
Plus, presumably there were a lot of people that dropped out of the sport because of how dirty it was. Some of these people may have actually been the best in the world on an actual level playing field, but because they weren’t as willing to cheat, LA never had to face them.
LA is certainly the best in the world at some combination of cycling, taking drugs, a willingness to cheat and an ability to not get caught. There isn’t really any reason to think that he’s the best in the world at the actual sport of cycling.
And that word may not mean what I think it means, but jealous of what? He’s celebrity? Money? Sports prowess? What? There’s a gazillion folks out there that have these same things but aren’t unscrupulous, lying douchebags that I’m in awe of and definitely don’t feel any jealousy towards, so why would I make an exception for dickhead Lance?
Let’s see, Lance bathed in the the glory, riches and stardom from a decade long consipracy of lies, cheating, bullying, fraud, and hubris. He cheated, he lied about it, he ruined people’s lives and livelihoods, and now after 6 months of getting his titles taken away and a public admission that comes after the fact, he is supposed to get a pass.
My second grade daughter is reading a Lance Armstrong is a hero type book. Cancer survivor, 6 time tour de france winner, etc. kinda hard to pp her 8 year old bubble. guy was a fraud pure and simple. He’s not a role model for *my *kids.
I can accept the fact that he took drugs, cheated at sports, and lied about it - obviously not good characteristics but I could accept those as personal failings.
But what makes Armstrong a scumbag is the way he treated other people over his drug use. Armstrong has harassed and threatened and sued people who talked about his drug use - even though what they were saying was true and it was Armstrong that was lying. Attacking other people because they question your lies is the act of a real asshole.