Where did the accent in mass. come from??

I’m just wondering, because I can’t think of any place it should come from. Then again, I haven’t been many places. Can anyone tell me where the accent comes from? Like if its a country… or whatever reason? Please?

Thanks alot dopers!

What accent?

Hey, YOU’RE the one with the accent, pal! :smiley:


“Why, sometimes I’ve believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast!” - the White Queen

i was just wondering… sorry…

Your question is incomprehensible. What’s “mass.”? Why can’t you be bothered to write out your question in full? Is it that hard to write one paragraph? What accent are you talking about? Why do you think it’s strange that the accent should exist? Don’t expect us to waste our time answering a question that you can’t be bothered to clearly state.

I’m pretty sure the “mass.” in this question refers to Massachusetts. And I think its an interesting question–people in that state have a variety of accents, some similar to British accents, some unique.

he’s write i guess. Nevermind, don’t answer the question if you feel personally offended by it. Flame away. Its nothing i can’t take. I just wondered why those in that particular portion of the country spoke differently.

"paak tha caar in haavaad yaaad’ hehe.

But if you’re too disturbed that I didn’t bother to spell out Massachusetts. There it is…LOOK AT IT?? I’m sorry you couldn’t grasp that. MA would have worked better? Perhaps I should have named cities, in the state or perhaps its geologic location.

I was asked by a friend, and I’m puzzled as well. If you don’t understand the question you could always ask me to clarify, that isn’t too hard. Maybe perhaps before you go an insult someone. Incomprehensible, … as well as bothered… that is a blatant assault on my character. Honestly, you must be a little light upstairs if you couldn’t figure it out.

interesting. You found it nessicery to blast me… You call me lazy, worthless, a bad writer, apathetic, and stupid as well.

I don’t really appreiciate it. I still want my question answered. Evidentally you didn’t have CLUE what i was talking about. If someone asks you a question about thermodynamics in superfluous state, in a vacuum, lacking gravity, and you don’t understand… do you call them stupid? … if you can’t understand an acronym, do you call them LAZY? I don’t know what VESPR means… YOUR LAZY… because you don’t write it out… even though it is a common chemistry abreiviation.

Also I know I’m not the best when it comes to the pen or the keyboard. It would mean i was using crayons and couldn’t spell my own name backwords if it took me a paragraph to write out this question. HONESTLY.

How’s that? Is that lazy? Do you know what state i’m talking about. Also an accent is generally referred to as speech pronounced differently than your own. If you didn’t know. Tell me if there are any other problems you have with my question.
OgreFade


If life is a stage, I want to operate the trap door.

Ogrefade

Just get on with and write it out in full for us dim Brits eh!
How on earth would I know what you meant.If I were to ask what Glamorg stood for I’ll bet you wouldn’t know it’s the Brit shortened way to refer to Glamorganshire-one of our counties, good grief, you never even capitalized it.

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My monitor is not a crstal ball-talk to me!

Right, I woudln’t even presume to try and answer a question posed … about “Glamorganshire” now would I? Being that I do not understand the question, I wouldn’t proceed to attack you… for asking it.

How about I call you stupid and lazy because I don’t know anything about britan. OH MY GOD I Didn’t capitalize it! I’m so sorry. I know that its such a very important thing, I didn’t know i was being criticized for my grammer.

Okay, here’s the grade school version

Massachusetts is a state in the north eastern part of the united states((when the needle of a compass(a tool that uses magnetics to point to the same direction every time.) goes between the places labeled NORTH… and EAST)The United States is a country in NORTH AMERICA… that sits between the atlantic and pacific oceans…(ocean is a BIG body of water)with CANADA and MEXICO boarding to is north and south respecivly.). My question… Why do these people speak (speaking… also known as talking…) in a different (not the same)way than most(being everyone who doesn’t talk that way)? Also where does this origniate (originate means 'where does it come from").

Does this work for you??
OgreFade


My monitor isn’t a crystal ball. My brain uses common sense.

No.

how can i clear it up for you?

Just admit that you could have phrased the question better. Hell, I live in Massachusetts and couldn’t quite figure out what you meant. For one thing, you asked “where” as if the Massachusetts accent arrived in a boat from, say, France. No one was asking you where Massachusetts is, just to refer to it in a way that lets us know what you are talking about. Like perhaps by capitilizing it.

English speakers all over the world use a variety of different accents. There really aren’t that many reasons. There is no such thing as accentless speech. How would you feel if CasDave asked why all Americans mispronounce everything so badly? Hell, we Massachusettians(???) probably speak English more correctly as compared to the original source than you (whatever part of the country you happen to live in).

Massachusetts is hardly the only place known for having a strange accent. There’s New Jersey, New York City, Long Island, Minnesota, Texas, the South, Southern California, etc. And that’s just in the U.S. Why does the rest of America overenunciate the letter R so much? It doesn’t really seem necessary. I can tell what people mean when they say Harvard the way it’s supposed to be said, and am rather confused why so many people insist on it being Harrvarrd.

Ogrefade

I think you will find ** if ** you take the trouble to look, that a previous poster mentioned something about there possibly being an English based accent.

Forgive me for my ignorance but I do believe that some early settlers to your wide and wonderful land are rumoured to have been from these islands,thus had you been capable of illustrating your point more cogently I might have been able to point you in the right direction.

You are a student? Presumably you would know then the to capitalize a word that it is usually taken to mean that word is a proper noun unless it is a title or start of a sentence.

If you had chosen to do this and if you had illustrated things better from your first post I think you would be likely to get an answer sooner rather than later.

Now I might have been more helpful to you, I could have searched for the answer for you and ,who knows ,I might even have been able to speak directly to some of those pre-settlement ancestors.

Just supposing I had done so and had been able to come up with a family connection between you and some ancestral family of yours,wouldn’t that have been nice?

Who know maybe one of those ancestors may even have had a title ready for you- the last of the line-to inherit.

It’s possible that in just a few weeks time you could be sitting in an English stately home as a Duke or an Earl with thousands of acres of beautiful English countryside at your disposal, a string of polo horses, and a permanent invitation to dine with the most gorgeous people on earth.

BUT

Since you are such an arsehole I guess I’ll not bother.
You’ll just have to stay over there and afflict the poor ,innocent residents of the US with your childish mindless rantings.
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Do not wait for the last judgement-It takes place every day
CAMUS-The Fall

Casdave - Oooh, oooh! If Ogrefade’s castle and lands are still up for grabs, lemme know! I’ve always wanted to be surrounded by the beautiful people. :smiley:


Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

OgreFade-

These guys don’t have any answers for your perfectly reasonable question. Your best bet now is to let go for a few days, until it drops of the radar, and try again. I wouldn’t even spell out the state. The first person to respond to a thread seem to set the tone, and it goes downhill from there. With luck, next time the first person to answer will know something of value and the hecklers will avoid the thread.

I guess they capitalize proper nouns on the other side of the pond, but don’t use spaces after commas. :wink:

here we go again…

I guess some people aren’t quite as intelligent as they would like is to think.

Ok admissions

I didn’t think I was talking to those who barely made it through grade school. I didn’t think they would have the information. So I could have made the question more clear.
Waterj2
If you live in mass. then you should know better than anyone. Yes it did come on a boat… in one way or another… just like many words have an entemology (sp) I figured this accent woudl have one also. I don’t really care about hte other places because I don’t have friends there.

All i wanted was an answer… not a critisizm of my speech, not a questioning of my ability to inquire about something I do not know.

If you asked me how to make a laser… I’d have to tell you i didn’t know. I wouldn’t bust your balls because you didn’t put a question mark at the end.

casdave
Yes yes… casdave did in fact…mention the english possiblity. Thats like saying… “I’d like to know how to fly a plane” I answer. “sit in it and fly it”

I’m fairly certain that, that part of the country was in fact contributed to by those ‘islands’. I didn’t even care to make this an american versus stupid limey r. soles

Sure I’m a student. A student of life. Who cares what my backgroudn is. If eveyrthing on this friggen board had to be gramatically corect I’d spell everything right use a spell checker, and the moderators would take my questions away from me… as well as countless others on this board.

Either that or you could figure it out instead of acting retarded, you could have taken the time to ask NICELY. perhaps that doesn’t matter to you. Just be an ass to anyone you can. I’ve seen more maturity in small rodents.

Also my grandmother has traced my geneology back previous to the mayflower. As you have shown, no one back there would want me anyway.

Yes yes, I happen to be a poor college student, that asked a simple question, and you shove the entire history of your country down my throat, so I don’t really want your answer. I’d rather like the answer from someone who happened to know. Mayhaps my rants are… mindless.

Then again, you’ve managed to ruin my curiosity and purge the fun out of this message board for me. I’d still like to know… but it really has taken the fun out of it. I guess you think you’re very prim and proper as you call me an arsehole, mindless stupid, lazy, inflicting people wiht my presents, threaten me, make fun of me, i really don’t see why you should even come here.

I remember my mother saying… “if you can’t say something nice then don’t say anything at all”

Now I was having a bad day, and that just took the cake. I even appologized to the first guy, but YOU… YOU INSOLENT LITTLE BUGGER. You pissed me off… You keep coming back for more. Americans are notorious for being brutish. I’m 6’6" if you said that to me in person… You’d get two warnings and I’d take your block off.

DO NOT. INTERREGATE ME ABOUT MY SELF WORTH, PERSONAL STANDINGS, PERSONAL LIFE, EDUCATION, MORALS, OR EVEN MY FAMILY. OVER A STUPID QUESTION. HOW YOU CAN EVEN FATHOM TO BASE MY ACTIONS HERE AS A BASIS FOR ANYTHING IN THE OUTSIDE WORLD.

Afflicting people, my god, what if perhaps I was suicidal? What if these attacks against me were taken SO PERSONAL, I decided I was completely worthless, and ended my own life?

What if i were that depressed? Hmm? What if other events were so bad, that I came home just to enjoy the presents of people who did not judge me by anything, and answered my little questions about lifes mysteries? What if you pushed me to kill myself? How would you feel. would it matter that i didn’t capitalize the letter M… Is that worht my life? Did you even CONSIDER THAT? EVER?

Were you seo SELFISH… That you decided your character was so far beyond mine… that you can tell me how to live my life, knowing nothing more than A SIMPLE QUESTION I ASKED?

How would you feel in the morning? Its possible that I’m some very intelligent super hacker, and I know where you live, who your family is, and I just happen to have the money to hire a hit man… in a few weeks time… you could be lying in your beautiful grounds. I’m not either, I happen to be a poor college student, who had a bad day, is depressed, and just wanted to know why some peole talked the way they FUCKING talked. Okay?

If you don’t know anything abou tthe way they talked… then stay off my topic.

If you wanna reply you go for it

I’m going to go eat some damn dinner, and I’m not going to enjoy it, because I’m really pissed off.

OGREFADE


Sniper, One shot one kill.

Geez, I can’t believe it. I go upstairs for FIVE minutes, and come back down, and look at this place!! Whatjaguys do, have a war? All right, I don’t CARE who started it, I want it all picked up RIGHT NOW. I’m gonna go down to the 7-11 and get some milk; I want it clean by the time I get back.

And play nice now. I mean it. No biting.

:rolleyes:

“Why, sometimes I’ve believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast!” - the White Queen

OgreFade, if you’re still listening, I hope you understand that I at least was teasing you. My mother used to say, “Be glad when the other kids tease you; it’s better to be teased than to be ignored.”

The thing is, you asked a practically unaswerable question, OK? A person would have to have a Ph.D in linguistics, history, speech pathology, and dialects to answer it, and our collective mind just boggled.

It was kind of like asking, “Why do women wear dresses?” Just terribly complex, and you took us by surprise.

Not that it’s a DUMB question, OK, just that I think it’s beyond the scope of this forum.

And as for the subsequent flaming, well, hey, you’ve been here for a little while, you must know that’s how it works. Like they say, “If you can’t stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.”

You have to be ready at any time to shout, “Incoming!” and duck for cover. It’s just the way the game is played, babe. OK?

You’re right, some people in Massachusetts do have a distinct accent, sometimes known as “Yankee”. However, it’s dying out, because people move around so much, and your next door neighbor in Boston is just as likely to hail from Iowa and speak fluent “Midwestern”, as to be from Concord and speak “Yankee”.

But as to why people develop different regional accents, or where all the accents come from, gee, I dunno.


“Why, sometimes I’ve believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast!” - the White Queen

say fine… i don’t care anymore. no one will answer honestly anymore. Oh well life goes on.

I quit… unless that guy says something else to me.

I’ll likely say something. I guess i can’t take the flames. Someone kick me out of the message boards.

Hey hon, don’t let this ruin your digestion, ok?

I’m from Atlanta, GA, so I can’t help with how or why people have their particular kinds of accents in Massachusetts (or anywhere else!)

But, we have neighbors that just moved to a house down the street, they are from Bah–stun (that’s ‘Boston’) It tickles me to pieces to hear the mom yell at her son, ‘Jaaahnnn, don’t go in that naybuh’s yaaaarddd!’

Or how about Louisiana? We had a policeman move here from there, I can hardly listen to what he is saying, for just listening to HOW he says it! It’s kinda neat, really.

I suppose we are a blend of all kinds of accents, of course, the SOUTH being the best!! :smiley:

Judy


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