Business for Scotland = Scotland’s premier forum for car boot sellers and bankrupts directed by a former SNP MSP and a former SNP council candidate. They’re an SNP front group with barely a single legitimate business man amongst their numbers. The idea that they’re an impartial voice by which we can judge Scotland’s finances is ridiculous.
Here’s an investigation into who they are and the “business” they represent.
THat ‘investigation’ is a list of musings on a blog.
Wikipedia gives a fairer assessment.
The Guardian take on both YES and NO business organisations.
This “list of musings” looks like quite a lot of hard detailed work. It’s Business for Scotland’s wiki page that looks rather poor in comparison. I have no idea how accurate either page is. At first glance far more time has gone into the blog. The blog also has far more detailed information and links. Again, I don’t know if the information on the blog is accurate, but to dismiss it as “musings” is perhaps another “terminological inexactitude” on your part.
Adding to the pressure to apologise for the accusation of lying, I copy my original statement (that is not how you characterise it):
“As expected, the Vow is nowhere near the Home Rule that was mentioned by Gordon Brown with many essential elements such as Corporation Tax, welfare and pensions, and management of Oil in Scottish waters retained in Westminster. The SNP are happy as far as the devolution goes, but seriously unhappy as far as it doesn’t.”
As you can see, I never said that Home Rule promised by Brown was part of the Vow.
Perhaps you should withdraw your accusation of lying before it is moderated.
You have made an error of comprehension and made a false accusation of lying.
The blog is headed:
Musings on life, business and the Scottish economy from @kevverage
Hence my use of the word ‘musings’.
I also posted a Guardian assessment of YES and NO business organisations.
If it is in Scotland it is Scottish. If it is in England then it is British.
That’s pretty much the SNP’s arguments in a nutshell.
Actually, I’ll amend that to make it clearer (Edit time elapsed):
If it is in Scotland it is Scottish and thus Scotland’s alone. If it is in England then it is British and should be shared.
That’s pretty much the SNP’s arguments in a nutshell.
No. Stonehenge is English. The British Museum is British, the Cairngorms are Scottish.
Some things are part of the subsidiary nationality, some things are shared enterprises. Those that truly belong to the nations should stay with the nations (oil and fish in Scottish and other-British waters) others are shared and need to be separated in other ways (the armed forces, the pound, the monarchy etc.)
That is a rational answer.
The unionist argument is that anything that is wanted by the union can be claimed despite the legal or moral rules involved.
You forgot the link in post 63, actually.
Sorry. Will post later but as it was accessed on my tablet earlier.
The prohibition against accusations of lying are explicit.
If you make such an accusation again in Great Debates, you will be issued a Warning.
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Attempting to employ the SDMB staff to try rack up points in a discussion is frowned upon. If you are going to report a post, report it. Do not make a histrionic claim of being forced into an unpleasant action.
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$69 per barrel on the Brent Crude market at the mo (SNP assumptions were $100+). Not that that would have bothered the new greener independent Scotland, had only the indyref gone the other way! What with all the unbuilt power generation infrastructure to replace Torness and Longannet and all that. Mere details, mere details.
It wouldn’t have bothered us in the slightest. We would just sell our new super-super renewable energy that we haven’t yet produced, and that we cannot yet find a way to export, and that we haven’t yet found a buyer for.
I did report it. Nothing happened despite the fact that the accusation of lying was totally false and was due to a misremembering of what was actually said. I did not say what he accused me of- he manufactured that.
Complaining about moderation belongs in ATMB. I’ll give you a chance to honorably withdraw your comment before I report it.
I was not complaining about moderation, merely pointing out that I had reported it.
Who made you a moderator all of a sudden.
So you refuse and leave me no choice… So be it.