Where in the World is Osama bin Laden?

I just watched this tonight. The production values were through the roof (for a documentary), presumably due to the success of Super Size Me, but I don’t think it made any money. It certainly didn’t get much attention.

Frankly, I loved it.

It was more a film about life in the Muslim world, and how they perceive the United States, than an earnest search for Osama, which is fine with me. I wasn’t like the idiots on IMDb who felt ripped off because he didn’t actually find ObL. I knew that would’ve been much bigger news than the documentary itself. He was searching for the symbolic bin Laden, not the man himself.

Honestly, I have to regretfully admit to holding some prejudice for Muslims. It’s something I’ve struggled with, and I’m not proud of-- nor do I like it, but there ya go. In all fairness I don’t have much love for any religion. I’ve just always perceived Islam as being somewhat more violent than the rest. Intellectually I’ve always known, or at least suspected, that it’s a few bad apples spoiling the bunch, but this film really shows it.

Spurlock found the salt of the Earth- really good people, all over the Middle East, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and North Africa. Many, many people insisted that their problem was with the American government only, not with American citizens. Most people expressed disgust for bin Laden and those like him. The most aggressive people he ran into were Hasidic Jews-- a people I’ve always perceived as being extremely peaceful!

I think what this film highlighted most for me was the almost complete lack of positive portrayals of Muslims and Middle-Easterners in American media and pop culture. People (including Bush) say that Muslims are great and Islam is a peaceful religion, but you don’t see it much. You see kids with guns and imams preaching jihad. Even in the one college class I took about the region, the professor has mostly negative things to say about the countries and their people.

Even the most radical Wahhabist Spurlock interviewed made what I felt was a very good point. He mentioned that the invasion of Afghanistan angered a lot of Muslims. Spurlock defended it and the Wahhabist asked, “was it an act of aggression?” Spurlock waffled and the Wahhabist asked, “did you go in with ambulances or tanks?” Sure, it’s a complicated issue, but from their viewpoint, what he said makes a lot of sense. We wouldn’t want any other country occupying our lands, no matter what.

I hope this movie gets some more attention through word of mouth. It’s very necessary, IMO, especially if you don’t know many Muslims or have never been to the Middle East. Check it out. Your views will likely be challenged. Mine absolutely were.

I saw this in the theater, and it is a shame that it didn’t get more attention. I think the timing was an issue - that a lot of Americans were just worn out by the Bush Administration’s failure to find the murderer of 3000+ Americans. I know I couldn’t get my wife to go with me.

I live in a Muslim majority neighborhood, and have for nearly a decade. Every single Muslim I’ve dealt has been friendly and a great neighbor.

It’s amusing to contrast this film with Albert Brooks’ Looking For Comedy in the Muslim World. Brooks failed to find the humor, concentrating on himself, while Spurlock just let the humor develop naturally. I love his show 30 Days.

So it seems we’re the 2 people who saw this movie, gaffa. That really is a shame.

Well, maybe he’ll have more luck with his next film Freakonomics. It’s based on a best-seller, but it looks like they have a different director for each section of the book.

Well, to be honest, I think you can’t find Osama because he’s dead. I think he died years ago. He was probably moved to Pakistan and died there long before the battle at Tora Bora (where, despite allegations of error, the military did the right thing and probably avoided great loss of life for a prestige objective). Bin Laden was not healthy at that time and probably died in double exile - from Arabia and Afganistan.

There is considerable evidence, too. Some time after the invasion of Afganistan, his videos stopped coming and seemed to have been cut together from older clips. They stopped referencing new videos. Then, new videos began to emerge, and yeah, the guy on them does look like Osama - 30 years ago! There is a distinct difference, even given the bad video quality.

No, I think Osama died years ago. The intelligence community argued over it a bit but finally kinda let the issue die. I think it’s probably good for them if Osama is alive but also not very important one way or another, so they let it go on. They can hardly prove he’s dead even if the videos are fake anyhow, so it’s largely a moot point. If he’s alive, he’s still influencing events. If not, they’d be fools to claim he was if he could then somehow prove his continued existence upon this plane.

Again, I don’t think Spurlock even had any intention or hope of finding Osama bin Laden in the flesh. His search was symbolic.

We enjoyed it very much, although it was a little facile. (Muslim people are just like us and we should get along and love each other! Well, duh.) It doesn’t hurt that Morgan Spurlock is just such a likeable dude. I did also appreciate that in among the angry Muslim people he spoke to there were those ultra-orthodox guys in Jerusalem who were just as scary, if not scarier.