Where is the Ark of the covenant?

Thank you for this explanation, which is exactly what I was looking for.
I don’t think the aliens from space theory is all that far-fetched. What is more far-fetched, that aliens from space spoke to the Hebrews through a microphone or that a three-in-one, omnipresent, omniscient creator of the big bang decided to speak to the Hebrews from out of the sky? In any case, reality is sometimes more far-fetched than we could ever imagine.

Maybe the Babylonians did melt down the arc for the gold, but the ten commandments were written on stone. That would have had no interest for the Babylonians, so maybe they tossed them away and broke them, but they surely didn’t melt down the stones. I didn’t see the film, Raiders of the lost arc, but reading the Old Testament has got me thinking about what an incredible find those tablets or their fragments would be. Have excavations been done on the old temple site? I suppose people are constantly searching the caves of the Dead Sea and Mount Nebo. I thought maybe we should get a hundred armed Christians together to storm that church in Ethiopia, but if the story isn’t credible, then it’s surely not worth it.

Many things in the Bible are obviously not literally true, but from the way it talks about the tablets, I believe they really existed at some point, whether made by man, by God or by aliens. If we could get our hands on them, it would be really interesting.


LINK TO COLUMN: What happened to the Ark of the Covenant? - The Straight Dope

Top. Men.


Seriously though, you say you don’t believe in literalism and then ask us to provide you with a literalist answer to a question that has stumped humanity for thousands of years. IF the Ark existed it is either a) so well hidden that we’ll never find it or b) was destroyed ages ago.

Speaking as moderator:
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Now, speaking as author of the staff-report in question:
Searching the Temple mount is extremely difficult, not to say impossible. The Temple was destroyed by the Romans in 70 AD, and in the intervening centuries, the Muslims built a Mosque (the Dome of the Rock) on the site. This mosque is very holy to Islam, marking the place where Mohammed ascended directly to heaven. Any efforts by archaeologists to dig around there meet with stern disapproval, condemnation, and even riots. So, no, there has not been the in-depth searching that one might wish.

You should. Good film.

Why Christians, specifically?

Christianity trumps everything. Jews have no right to their own religion, silly.

Here it is.

Seriously? You believe there once was a stone slab or two with chiseled words from the Hebrew God on it? And a big gold box with magic powers that failed? What are you basing this on, an over-2000 year old book of legends and fairy tales that cannot be corroborated with any evidence or alternative history? Sheesh.

Don Jackson–the Temple in Jerusalem was pillaged several times. The Ark was, at least in part, gold.

It was stripped of gold ages ago, & everything else tossed in the nearest trash pile.

Why not? The kaaba stone is an actual physical artifact. Maybe the Ark of the Covenant is real too.

edit- ‘was’, I guess. As stated above, it’s probably gone now.

And maybe my ass is made of gold. Look! Goldbricks!

I don’t think he’s coming back, guys.

Probably on a plane to Ethiopia already.

Obviously a member of The Septembrists.

Musicat’s belief, on the other hand, is based on the excellent logic of “you guys are *sooooo *stupid!”

I’m curious how infidel invaders were able to strip the ark of its gold given the storied predilection of said holy object to smite anyone who touched it.

They used oven mitts.

I think a better word might be gullible.

All Don Jackson postulated was that the Ten Commandments tablets probably existed, not given by God.

In fact, he thinks it’s more likely a sign of extraterrestrial visitation than dictation from God. If he comes back, I’d like his opinion on whether it’s more likely that people created it (and stories of supernatural creation later developed), than coming from aliens.

Anyway, I wouldn’t be surprised if stone tablets that the Hebrews considered holy objects once existed.

I wouldn’t be surprised, either. Could happen. But until more evidence comes to light, all we have is a tribal legend and wishful thinking. Maybe we should first start looking for the dragon that St. George battled, the gingerbread house in Hansel & Gretel, or Mary’s little lamb.

Well, there’s always Wiki:

Current locations

Since its disappearance from the Biblical narrative, there have been a number of claims of having discovered or of having possession of the Ark, and several possible places have been suggested for its location.
Mount Nebo

2 Maccabees 2:4-10, written around 100 BC, says that the prophet Jeremiah, “being warned by God” before the Babylonian invasion, took the Ark, the Tabernacle, and the Altar of Incense, and buried them in a cave on Mount Nebo (Jordan), informing those of his followers who wished to find the place that it should remain unknown “until the time that God should gather His people again together, and receive them unto mercy.” Mount Nebo is also described in the Bible (Deuteronomy 34) as the site from which Moses views the Promised Land, and apparently also is his final burial place. Mount Nebo (Jordan) is approximately 29 miles (47 km) slightly south of due east from Jerusalem, near the east bank of the Jordan River.
Ethiopia
The Chapel of the Tablet at the Church of Our Lady Mary of Zion in Axum allegedly houses the original Ark of the Covenant.

The Ethiopian Orthodox Church claims to possess the Ark of the Covenant, or Tabot, in Axum, not far from the border with Eritrea. The object is currently kept under guard in a treasury near the Church of Our Lady Mary of Zion and is used occasionally in ritual processions Replicas of the Axum tabot are kept in every Ethiopian church, each with its own dedication to a particular saint, the most popular of these include Mary, George and Michael.

The Kebra Nagast, composed to legitimise the new dynasty ruling Ethiopia following its establishment in 1270, narrates how the real Ark of the Covenant was brought to Ethiopia by Menelik I with divine assistance, while a forgery was left in the Temple in Jerusalem. Although the Kebra Nagast is the best-known account of this belief, the belief predates the document. Abu al-Makarim, writing in the last quarter of the twelfth century, makes one early reference to this belief that they possessed the Ark. “The Abyssinians possess also the Ark of the Covenant”, he wrote, and, after a description of the object, describes how the liturgy is celebrated upon the Ark four times a year, “on the feast of the great nativity, on the feast of the glorious Baptism, on the feast of the holy Resurrection, and on the feast of the illuminating Cross.”

On 25 June 2009, the patriarch of the Orthodox Church of Ethiopia, Abune Paulos, said he would announce to the world the next day the unveiling of the Ark of the Covenant, which he said had been kept safe and secure in a church in Axum, Ethiopia. The following day, on 26 June 2009, the patriarch announced that he would not unveil the Ark after all, but that instead he could attest to its current status.

Southern Africa

The Lemba people of South Africa and Zimbabwe have claimed that their ancestors carried the Ark south, calling it the ngoma lungundu or “voice of God”, eventually hiding it in a deep cave in the Dumghe mountains, their spiritual home.

On 14 April 2008, in a UK Channel 4 documentary, Tudor Parfitt, taking a literalist approach to the Biblical story, described his research into this claim. He says that the object described by the Lemba has attributes similar to the Ark. It was of similar size, was carried on poles by priests, was not allowed to touch the ground, was revered as a voice of their God, and was used as a weapon of great power, sweeping enemies aside.

In his book The Lost Ark of the Covenant (2008), Parfitt also suggests that the Ark was taken to Arabia following the events depicted in the Second Book of Maccabees, and cites Arabic sources which maintain it was brought in distant times to Yemen. One Lemba clan, the Buba, which was supposed to have brought the Ark to Africa, have a genetic signature called the Cohen Modal Haplotype. This suggests a male Semitic link to the Levant. Lemba tradition maintains that the Ark spent some time in Sena in Yemen. Later, it was taken across the sea to East Africa and may have been taken inland at the time of the Great Zimbabwe civilization. According to their oral traditions, some time after the arrival of the Lemba with the Ark, it self-destructed. Using a core from the original, the Lemba priests constructed a new one. This replica was discovered in a cave by a Swedish German missionary named Harald von Sicard in the 1940s and eventually found its way to the Museum of Human Science in Harare.

Parfitt had this artifact radio-carbon dated to about 1350, which coincided with the sudden end of the Great Zimbabwe civilization.
Europe
Chartres Cathedral, France

French author Louis Charpentier claimed that the Ark was taken to Chartres Cathedral by the Knights Templar.
Rennes-le-Château, then to America

Several recent authors have theorised that the Ark was taken from Jerusalem to the village of Rennes-le-Château in Southern France. Karen Ralls has cited Freemason Patrick Byrne, who believes the Ark was moved from Rennes-le-Château at the outbreak of World War I to America.

Rome

The Ark of the Covenant was said to have been kept in the Basilica of St. John Lateran, surviving the pillages of Rome by Genseric and Alaric I but lost when the basilica burned.

United Kingdom

In 2003, author Graham Phillips hypothetically concluded that the Ark was taken to Mount Sinai in the Valley of Edom by the Maccabees. Phillips claims it remained there until the 1180s, when Ralph de Sudeley, the leader of the Templars found the Maccabean treasure at Jebel al-Madhbah, returned home to his estate at Herdewyke in Warwickshire, England taking the treasure with him.

Ireland

During the turn of the 20th century British Israelites carried out some excavations of the Hill of Tara in Ireland looking for the Ark of the Covenant – the Royal Society of Antiquaries of Ireland campaigned successfully to have them stopped before they destroyed the hill.

Egypt
Tutankhamun’s tomb
Main article: Exhibitions of artifacts from the tomb of Tutankhamun
1922 photograph of the tomb of Tutankhamun. Photograph by Harry Burton (1879-1940)

In 1922 in the Egyptian Valley of the Kings the tomb of Tutankhamun (KV62) was opened by Howard Carter and Lord Carnarvon. Among the artifacts was a processional ark, listed as Shrine 261, the Anubis Shrine. Almost immediately after publication of the photographs of this sensational archaeological find some claimed that the Anubis Shrine could be the Ark of the Covenant. John M. Lundquist, author of The Temple of Jerusalem: past, present, and future (2008), discounts this idea. The Anubis Shrine measures 95 centimetres (37 in) long, 37 centimetres (15 in) wide, 54.3 centimetres (21.4 in) high, in the shape of a pylon. The Biblical Ark of the Covenant is approximately 133 centimetres (52 in) long, 80 centimetres (31 in) wide, and 80 centimetres (31 in) high in the shape of a rectangular chest.

He points out that Shrine 261 is not strictly analogous to the Ark of the Covenant: it can only be said that the Anubis Shrine is “ark-like”, constructed of wood, gilded and gessoed, stored within a sacred tomb, “guarding” the treasury of the tomb (and not the primary focus of that environment), that it contains compartments within it that store and hold sacred objects, that it has a figure of Anubis on its lid, and that it was carried by two staves permanently inserted into rings at its base and borne by eight priests in the funerary procession to Tutankhamun’s tomb. Its value is the insight it provides to the ancient culture of Egypt.

I believe the only reports of the smiting of people who touched it are only in the Bible and in Jewish apocryphal tales. If we had a report on a cuneaform tablet dug up elsewhere, and corroborated with an Egyptian report, then I might believe it was able to smite someone.

And as to it being hoiked off to Ethiopia, that would mean that Solomon had to give away a major religious artifact to some broad from elsewhere he was shagging for a while. Um, not really going to happen - I believe all the priests would have something to say about that.

I find it much easier to believe that it was stripped of gold and tossed on a fire somewhere, and the stone tablets dumped out on the ground, and perhaps used as building fill.