The funny thing, Scylla, is that on non-political subjects, you’re a witty writer. If you were to apply that same skill in your political posts, you’d probably manage to convince a few readers by rhetoric if not by reason. But it appears that politics seems to shut down your brain. Or, as the evidence here seems to indicate, maybe your brain shuts down before it thinks about politics.
Cite? Some evidence? See, here’s what you actually said:
“I would guess…” Are you “guessing” that her status was classified? Because now you claim that what you previously said was a guess is now a fact. Again, without so much as a hint of substantiation.
And don’t you think they have any lawyers on staff over there at CIA? Someone who could say “Why, no! After Aldrich Ames blew her cover, her status falls under the “Olly Olly Oxen Free” provision of the statute…”? And yet, they referred the matter to Justice! Very odd, if your interpretation has any basis in fact. Very odd, indeed.
Scylla:
You really don’t mind displaying your ignorance this blatantly? Funny; I’d’ve felt a sense of shame.
Here’s Fitzgerald’s filing about the notes.
Wilson and one other word? Hardly.
Gad, if you would, extract the “money quotes”? The newsweek reprint of the filing is ten pages of legal boilerplate. I would read it, but I’m lazy and easily…ooh! Shiny!
I’ll take that to mean that you have no answer. Rove called Matt Cooper three days before the Novak story came out. Three days before anyone had heard of Valerie Plame, and Rove is shopping the story. There is no way that is related to Armitage. And you have no way of making it so.
Fucking loser.
Here is a copy of it.
I can’t tell for sure, but I think it says:
I (heart) Satan.
Mr. and Mrs. Adolph and Dick Hitler.
and
Joe and Valerie sitting in a tree…
Cite, please?
There are legends. Ancient days, when he would fancy himself a pirate, and his cronies would rush in and thump him on the shoulder. Huzzah, they would shout, Scylla has thrashed them again, the curl of his sneering lip set them to panic! There were so many, in those days, before the truth got out. Those days are gone now, of course. The cronies have all scurried away into the shadows. But…
There are legends.
It is rumored that Barking Spider has taken residence in the former lair of the last child of Ungoliant, in the mountains of Mordor.
Not at all. I welcome new info.
…And this demonstrates…
You knew what I said, yet you asked again.
Oh you little lying stupid sack of shit.
Hentor
Sure I do. I read the whole story. Why waste my time explaining the obvious to you?
Ike
Hey shithead. You gonna change some more rules to cover it up when you fuck up again?
Allright. Unless somebody shows up and makes a real, complete argument, I’m moving on. No sense trading barbs with the professional assholes.
Projecting, even from the OP…
How about, because if you don’t, you look like a complete fool and a sniveling little wuss in front of everyone reading this.
Come on, big guy - Explain how Karl Rove calling Matthew Cooper to tell him about Valerie Plame three days before her name is ever mentioned in Novak’s first article has anything to do with Armitage.
Hell, according to NPR, Armitage’s story is that he didn’t even realize he himself was Novak’s source until he read the story and put two and two together.
So answer. Or how about admit that this was out and out trolling from the very beginning. Like UncleBeer once said, you’re hell at chumming the water for the lefties.
This is coming from someone that posted a link to a google search.
May I suggest another board?
So you’re going to give up talking to yourself in the mirror?
Did you read the fucking thing, you unmitigated partisan moron?
That was just silly. I’m embarrassed for you. Plame wasn’t ‘covert’ because, well, some talking heads said she wasn’t.
Why don’t we ask special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald, working under authority from the Justice Department, which in turn is headed by the Bush appointed Attorney General…
So what say you, Mr. Fitzpatrick?
“At all relevant times from January 1, 2002, through July 2003, Valerie Wilson was employed by the CIA and her employment status was classified. Prior to July 14, 2003, Valerie Wilson’s affiliation with the CIA was not common knowledge outside the intelligence community.”
I’ll make room for the possibility that Plame was no longer doing heavy cloak and dagger work on July 14, 2003. However, her employer, the CIA, still considered her identify classified, and it’s easy to envision why. Even as the agent perhaps passes into the next phase of her career, it’s still wise to keep a veil over her identity, the work she had done, and the relationships she formed while she did classified work.
And it isn’t for some schmuck like you to decide that it’s OK to leak classified information because you are too dim to envision why it isn’t such a hot idea. It isn’t for schmucks like Armitage or Rove to decide either. Which is why they both belong in prison.
The inherent hypocrisy is appalling. In other circumstances, such a leak would be considered America-hating, unpatriotic, treasonous. Trace the leak to the Bush administration, however, and it’s quite alright to belittle the status of a CIA officer.
You really are cretinous, Scylla.
As I’ve already stated “covert” has a specific meaning. The CIA must be currently actively maintaining a cover for you and you must be serving outside of the country in the last five years in order to be considered “covert.” The CIA is not permitted to carry on covert operations domestically. Outing a covert agent is a jailable offense.
“Classified” would be things like the NSA program leaked by the NYT, or Wilson’s original report which was leaked prior to his editorial. Leaking “classified” information is not a punishable offense.
I agree. This is why Wilson shouldn’t have written is editorial in the NYT discussing the work he was sent on by his wife who’s status was “Classified.” Since the purpose of such an editorial is to draw attention to the events, it is unreasonable to expect his wife’s status would be preserved.
Sadly, leaking classified information isn’t punishable. Otherwise, perhaps Wilson might have to answer for discussing the contents of his report which was and remains classified. Had he not done so, there would be no issue. Why are you not upset with Wilson for leaking and precipitating these other leaks?
Yes. It is.
The original source for Novak’s column is Armitage. The original source for the contents of the report and the circumstances surrounding it is Wilson.
Even you know better than that, troll. :rolleyes: