Where's this Nazgul quote from?

“Come not between the Nazgul and his prey! Or he will not slay thee in thy turn. He will bear thee away to the houses of lamentation, beyond all darkness, where thy flesh will be devoured, and thy shrivelled mind be left naked to the Lidless Eye.” --J.R.R. Tolkien

What book, short story, whatever?

Lord of the Rings, Book 3 - The Return of the King.

Spoken by the Lord of the Nazgul.

Oh, man, it hurts not being the first to answer that.

Maybe I can redeem myself somewhat – the Lord of the Nazgul was speaking to Eowyn, niece of the King of Rohan. The Lord of the Nazgul had just killed (or at least caused the death of) the King of Rohan, and its steed (something like a pteranodon) was eating the king’s horse Snowmane. Eowyn told the Lord of the Nazgul to get lost (“Begone, foul dwimmerlaik!”, if memory serves), and he responded with the quote you gave.

The Lidless Eye, of course, refers to … well, modesty forbids.

Cool, thanx.

The Lord of the Nazgul was rather full of himself, wasn’t he? What with the use of the third person and the poetic phrasing and all…

Well, one could argue that the Nazgul spoke with the voice of Sauron, as he had long ago overmastered them completely.

The bad guys get all the best lines in LotR. “Hinder me? Thou fool. No man may hinder me.”

Tolkien trivia: what is the Nazgul Lord’s other name, from when he first appeared in Middle Earth many years ago?

I dunno.

Well Witch King isn’t a name so much as a title. But that is the only other alias we know him by. Here are the next trivia questions.

What was the only Nazgul named by Tolkien?
Where was he from?
What was his position in the Nazgul ranks?

Gothmog? (Kansas City?) Lieutenant of Barad-Dur?

Gothmog was called the Lieutenant of Minas Morgul. It is implied (but not explicitly stated) that he was the 2nd after Angmar in rank. Gothmog could have been some other type of being. Is this the answer you were going for, Bartman?

Oh, and I don’t think Gothmog was from Kansas City either, although I believe he came up through their farm system.

Gothmog was a Balrog, not a Nazgul. He was the captain of the forces which assaulted Gondolin way back when, and was slain by Turgon, wielding the great sword Glamdring (yes, that Glamdring). I don’t remember the Nazgul’s name offhand, but he was captain of Dol Guldur (Sauron’s fortress in Mirkwood), not Minas Morgul.

I dunno, jsc1953; I’ve always been partial to

Actually I wasn’t thinking of Gothmog. But I will allow partial credit. There are two Gothmogs. Chronos identified one. Laughing Lagomorph and jsc1953 got the other.

As far as I am aware the nature of the Gothmog in LotR is never stated. So he may have been a Nazgul. However Chronos is on the right track to the answer I’m looking for.

LL I don’t believe Angmar is a proper name. The Lord of the Nazgul is refered to as the Witch King of Angmar, not Angmar the Witch King. The same way Louis XIV was King of France, not France the King. Of course many members of nobility do go by their associated place names, so Angmar might have been correct usage for an undead sorceror. Who knows.

I knew this would come in handy! :slight_smile:

I’m not 100% sure, but I believe that somewhere in HOMES, JRRT wrote about a black numenorean who became a ringwraith.

I’m currently Similarionless, but found this website, which produces Middle Earth minatures, which gives their names. I can’t say if they’re correct or not.


Khamul, aka the Shadow of the East, aka The Black Easterling. Dwelt at Dol Goldur, and second in command to the WK of A. According to Unfinished Tales, “The Hunt for the Ring.”

And you’re right, Chronos, Gandalf gets in some great lines. “Go back, to the nothingness that awaits you and your master.”

And Capt Amazing: the Nazgul are also given names in various board games, but they’re non-canonical (ie, made up).

I confess I was being either 1. poetic or 2. lazy by calling the Witch King “Angmar”. Take your pick.

Have you seen this theory that Tom Bombadil and the Witch King are one and the same?


It’s interesting, but I think there are too many inconsistencies. It mostly rests on the “have you ever seen them in the same room together?” line of reasoning. I can’t see Sauron allowing the Witch King to hang out in the Old Forest with Goldberry, for one thing. Also, we are told the Nazgul are essentially invisible under their robes, and Bombadil clearly is not.