Which is more inappropriate, the kid or the school?

OneCentStamp, your post seems to be pregnant (missing a period).

Note the period, indicating an abbreviation. A **Cumulative **File is just that: a file of all the kid’s report cards, school picture for each year, IEP (Individual Educational Plan, the agreement of what special assistance a student with a learning disability needs provided by the school) and anything that is collected in “Your Permanent Record”. It is accessible to the teacher and administration of the school.

It’s called a Cum. File (“Keyoom” not “Kum”) for short.

This is why I’ve started spelling the abbreviation “Cume.”

Y’know, I thought about it, really I did, but it’s “abbreviating” by *adding *a letter that ain’t there, and that seems odd. So I went “cum”, “cume”, “cumm”, “cum.” and then gave up. Probably would have saved time to just type “cumulative” and be done with it.

While we’re on the hijack, how do you spell the word describing a gross scab with pus coming out of it? Pusy? Pussy? Pusey? See, nothing works.

Ok, bring it back to 4 year olds and boobies, folks!

A pox on both your houses. The child is blameless. If the parents delivered the child naked in school, would the child be arrested for public indecency?

Clearly not. All children are delivered naked. :cool:

(I know, I know. That’s strike two.)

My husband’s reaction was to wonder if the kid had a runny nose and was wiping it on the teacher. I have large breasts and I find that very little kids will often nuzzle them when I hug them, which is not surprising as they are only a year or so away from the breasts being lunch. The note in the file is entirely unwarranted at age four. I know my permanent file followed me until at least high school and caused problems for me more than once.

If it were my kid, I would fight this hard, not least of all because this is more likely to get him shuffled into groups that contain children with real problems centerer around sexuality and could even end up with him getting abused. I say this because my husband worked in a home for sexually abused boys and a big problem was keeping some from abusing the others. If the kids were not deeply disturbed before living there, there was a good chance they would get that way if they stayed long enough.

IMHO, once the parents sound off to the media about it, the school district should have the right to respond. As in court, when a particular line of questioning is off-limits because of constitutional protections, but then the witness opens the door by volunteering a comment, then the kimono (as my former boss used to say) is open for everyone. I suppose the school administrators could be in the right, and are legally bound to sit by grinding their teeth in silence while the dad has his way with them – parents to that regularly, it seems. But in a better world, the administrators wouldn’t be bound to silence once Dad opens his mouth – and if they didn’t say anything, we could logically assume they have nothing intelligent to say.

I am a little worried that the dad appeared on a local Fox station – the credibility of the local affiliates, in my view, is as dubious as that of the network.

Purulent.

/hijack

After a little rumination, I don’t believe I have enough information to form an opinion. But I wanted to comment on this:

The way I figure it, the only logical explanation is that the kid has been warned about inappropriate contact before. If it were truly an over-reacting and/or inexperienced aide, the entire incident would have been removed (or not reported in the first place). Otherwise, it doesn’t make sense that the school would agree to remove the ‘sexual references’ but leave the ‘inappropriate physical contact’ on the books.

I think you underestimate the propensity for institutions to close ranks behind their own.

I do NOT know that the district is defending a guilty aide. However, the idea that the only reason they would keep stuff in the file was if there had been some inappropriate action (as opposed to a need to never admit serious error) is not really supprted by similar actions of other agencies and institutions.

Or they could still be lunch. But the kid should still be able to make a distinction between breastfeeding with mom and interactions with other people’s breasts.

The question in my mind is what sort of knockers does the aide have that she doesn’t think she needs serious support. A 4yo would have to stand on a stool to reach the chest of the average adult.

I didn’t say it was the only possible explanation; I said it was the only logical explanation that I could think of.

It’s established that they errantly used the phrase “sexual contact and/or sexual harassment” to describe a four-year-olds behavior, so they certainly don’t seem prone to logical thinking and/or good judgement. But lately I’ve been inclined to give Da Man the benefit of the doubt in these fact-lite news blurbs. Maybe it’s the Christmas spirit.

I was just reminded of an “incident” (if it could be called that) when I was in pre-school-I was sitting on the lap of one of my teachers and I think one of the buttons on her blouse had come undone or something like that. And I noticed she was wearing a black lace bra or slip or camisol underneath, and I thought it was so pretty, and I started playing with the lace that was sticking out. I was three-I didn’t know jackshit about sex or anything, I just liked pretty lace.

Her reaction was to calmly move my hand and say, “No, that’s not appropriate.”

Imagine what might happen NOW. shakes head

Pervert. You should be ashamed.

Me too. We had a special outing to the neighborhood pool. I remember we had a very pretty instructor, she was probably all of 20 years old. She was kneeling in the kiddie pool with about a dozen of us all around her, worshipping her, jumping up and down, splashing.

It was noisy so we had to crowd up close to hear what she was saying. The kids right next to her were starting to get smooshed against her, and to stabilize everything she put her arms around a couple of them and they hoisted themselves onto her thigh while grabbing at her shoulder. Naturally, someone’s hand accidentally grabbed the shoulder strap of her bathing suit and down it came. That got the kids pretty excited, provoking more grabbing and down came the strap on the other side too. She couldn’t let go of the kids without dropping them into the pool so she just had to smile and go with it.

Good times.