Which of these is socialism, to you?

Question of definition: Which of these do you consider socialism?

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My definition of socialism includes Jane Fonda, the black hole at the center of the universe, hangnails, and bears.

That is a long list. I would add hippies, rich pseudo-hippies of any age like John Lennon, and Limousine Liberals.

Which Labor Unions?

I explain American Labor Unions to Spaniards as “subcontractors with a very big baseball bat.” There’s very little relationship between your Labor Unions and our Sindicatos.

If I ever join a Sindicato it will be CNT, simply because I find the notion of an Anarchist organization to be a hilarious oxymoron.

Public schools, fire departments, police departments, federal highway spending, other infrastructure spending, aid to those who have fallen on hard times, government sponsored health care, libraries, government funded grants and scholarships, government-sponsored employment programs during recessions and depressions.

I think socialism gets a bad rap and we’ve had it and benefited by it all along.

I don’t think you can say socialism is defined by any one of these thingss. Maybe a combination can come close to what is the essential definition: means of production being in the control of ‘the people’ (i.e. state).

Pretty much all of those things could or could not be socialist, but if I had to give a essential aspect it would have to be hot monkey love.

With communism, on the other hand, it’s easy. Communism is Electrification and Soviet Power, simple as that.

Government bail-out of failing companies is a big part of Socialism - which means the US has gone left-wing!

As for politicians, I’d suggest the following:

Conservatives are those who want you to help yourself (while helping themselves); Socialists are those who want to help you (while helping themselves).

Cynical, moi?

Why do you have quotation marks around “the people” as if you don’t quite mean it?

How does this distinguish socialism from communism? Some socialism seems to work well in some countries (Denmark, for example). Communism doesn’t seem to produce so many happy people.

What socialist countries (as opposed to communist) seem to be oppressed and bitter?

If the OP considers this off-topic, please forgive and set us back on course.

It is about 4:30 in the morning. I’m so sleepy that I just tried to turn the page on my monitor screen. Seriously. Goodnight.

Financial institutions that are being bailed out by governments.

This is my definition of socialism.

quoted wrong post, nvm.