Whistleblower: BP hiding size of spill by using toxic chemical to make the oil sink

Story here:

Now, the story doesn’t say what this “Allegiance Capitol Corporation” is. or what is its connection to BP, or how McCallister would have inside information on BP’s decisionmaking or practice.

None of which matters. I believe every word of it, you believe every word of it, and Congress will believe every word of it, and should.

ISN’T THERE SOME WAY WE CAN PUT THESE GUYS BEHIND BARS?! :mad:

Yeah, McCallister’s a friggin alarmist of the first water.
What the heck did all you dummies think a dispersant was doing to the oil, not dispersing it???:confused::confused::confused:
Christ, some folks are born dense, and just keep getting thicker and thicker!

They make dispersants for that . . .

You’re a moron. I’m not defending BP by any means, but would it have killed you to do just a tad bit of research? Here is the EPA’s own page on the use of dispersants in the current spill. Hell, the EPA and the coast guard O.K.'d it a month and a half ago. You can’t read about or watch a story about this disaster without coming across underwater dispersant.

“Inside information” my ass.

And Fred McCallister? He’s not an insider or an engineer. He’s a fucking investment banker that wants to lease European skimmers to BP. He’ll make money if BP leases the ships.

Next time do some basic, and I mean basic research before you post some dumbass pit thread.

Nice fucking google ad at the bottom of this page, btw. BP SPILL. BLAME OBAMA? VOTE NOW!
What the fuck ever. There is such a ridiculous amount of misinformation and blame shifting about this disaster that it’s ridiculous.

Nevertheless you do believe every word of it. If you deny it, you’re a liar.

I’m with the Brain on this one. Fucking BP, dispersing that oil and shit. We need it all to come ashore, so as we can sue and get more of that sweet cash.

Believe what? That they are using dispersants? Of course I do, it’s been a controversial decision by the EPA for a while now. That’s like asking me if I believe the health care bill passed. The difference between you and me is that I know what a dispersant is, and apparently you don’t. I’ve been keeping up with the news, and you haven’t.

The dispersant is not being used to “hide the size of the spill”, because the government isn’t measuring it in square miles anyway - they are measuring it in how many barrels come out of the pipe*. The hope is that by sinking the oil, it will stay away from the shoreline**.

*BP has certainly been underestimating that. That’s what you should be bitching about - not the dispersants. Do some research, because you sound like an uninformed idiot.

**I don’t particularly like the decision to use dispersants to protect the shoreline. It makes the oil harder to retrieve, may damage the benthic ecosystem, and the methanogen bloom it will cause is going to suck up all the dissolved O2 in the water - suffocating higher marine life.

If I may be permitted to puncture your sarcasm here, while there is no technology that can clean it up altogether, ecological damage is one of the major concerns in this spill, and dispersants make the ecological damage worse. Much worse.

Another recent take on it

Some good points:

And, we don’t even know at all what might evaporate into the air and disperse further, really. If someone can give me good data that it won’t happem, much obliged. Factor in the normal hurricane cycle of the Gulf.

Don’t factor. Pray. :frowning:

Honey, I can’t even pray about this…it’s the most singular anger making thing environmentally ever encountered. The most arrogant man-made disaster ever, slamming a vital ecosystem right where it should be flourishing.

If I could offer prayers, it would be to abolish ignorance and greed. Yep, will try, there,

That is truly all that’s left us, especially when you factor in that the spill and BP are just one more instance of the govt sponsored corporate ruination of the planet

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/25/science/earth/25disperse.html Here is a NYT article on Corexit, the dispersant BP is using. It has been removed from use in England for over a decade because it is bad for animals. While we allow oil companies to get away with whatever they want, apparently the EPA did not think BP would use the chemical in such huge quantities.
It is supposed to make the oil coalesce into droplets that sink to the gulf floor. The idea is that the ocean will disperse it better. That sounds counter to logic. It should make it harder to move, but less likely to show up visually. Bp does not care about the gulf. They care about money.

No, it doesn’t cause the oil to sink to the ocean floor. It causes it to sink below the water’s surface and get entrained in the water column. The oil is still buoyant and wants to rise, but the smaller droplets have a higher surface to volume ratio and are thus more easily kept below the water’s surface by wave action, etc.

Also, in theory, the smaller droplets can be consumed by natural oil-eating bacteria more quickly than oil in a thick slick.

Corexit has been banned in England only for use on rocky beaches.

From here.

Wow. Don’t you think there’s a disconnect between your first and second paragraph, which turns into a big chasm of crazy by your third paragraph? Of course you don’t. But it’s true.

Dispersants appear to break up in Gulf, EPA says

Oil dispersant does not pose environmental threat, early EPA findings suggest

EPA’s Toxicity Testing of Dispersants

For an incredibly post-modern look at Peak Oil, this is a must see. Listen closely.

Carry on.

Well, Leahy recently introduced the Environmental Crimes Enforcement Act, but that only mandates restitution to the victims. Given the way corporations are currently structured–with strong centralized command by the chief officers–it would be a great deterrent to future disasters if they were in danger of doing jail time in federal prison. Measly fines just won’t do it.