The fact that you included the relevant numbers later doesn’t make your initial post any less idiotic; and the fact that you left out relevant numbers and then tried to cover it up by accusing anyone who called you out on it for “centering Whiteness” is just classic MrDribble self righteousness. Chef’s kiss.
The fact that I consciously chose to center Blackness in a discussion about Whiteness certainly seems to be paying off in showing a bunch of White asses, so I regret nothing. Like I said, I had the numbers all along. They’re from the exact same source.
But Whiteness gonna do as Whiteness is wont to do, I suppose.
Presenting shitty statistics and then accusing anyone who points that out of “white fragility” is about the level of intellectual rigour I’d expect from the sort of person who unironically talks about “white fragility” so that tracks.
Denial of White fragility goes hand in hand with all the other denialism you love so much - tell me more about your liberal cred, again, I could use the laugh.
I’m sure if you make a few more ad hominem attacks we will all forget how bad you are at statistics.
Most of us are very bad at math while angry.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
There’s nothing bad about the maths. 85% in the pit, 8% in the office is shitty no matter which way you slice it.
Not if only 8% of the entire workforce is in the office.
85% “in the pit” and 8% in the office is not evidence of racial discrimination unless that number is different for different races. Pointing that out is not “centering Whiteness”.
Thinking that it’s not different for Whites would be peak White denialism and making the POC do the work of showing it’s the case (as I did) would be some of that Whitelash we POC all love soooo much.
No. In that case it’s just shitty for the other workforce people, too.
Of course, the real proprtions aren’t that, as I’ve shown, but here y’all are, still harping on it rather than discussing the actual point.
Which was, need I remind you, that Whiteness and capitalism go hand-in-hand.
MrDibble, If I am understanding correctly, is ONLY claiming that Black emoloyees are overrepresented at the bottom, and inferring racism ftom that.
The point could be made without referring to whiteness by saying (made up numbers to keep them distinct from the real ones):
75% of black employees work at the bottom tier, where they make up 50% of the workforce; 10% work at the top tier where they make up 25% of the workforce.
Otherwise, wouldn’t you expect a larger proportion of any group to work in the lower-level positions? It’s hard to interpret the disparity without a control.
Literally everyone who responded to you said something along the lines of “I assume that there is a discrepancy because Amazon sucks but your stats don’t show that” so no one was “thinking that it’s not different for Whites”.
This is the Straight Dope, everyone should show their work.
That’s a new one, what’s “Whitelash”?
Then what the fuck is the point of a post like that?
Naah, we all assume baseline assumptions for things all the time - until it’s something we disagree with.
I would have thought “Amazon has mostly White management” was that kind of baseline.
Suddenly that’s not the case.
Like I said, it’s very telling what people push back on
Work it out for yourself, genius. Or google it. Done doing the work.
To point out that the list of numbers you provided does not in and of itself make any kind of argument.
I mean, @Elmer_J.Fudd is right here, we could ask him: did you mean that you thought that only 8% of Amazon workers were in the office, or were you just making a point about the numbers that were and were not provided?
Then why did you bother to cite the percentage of black workers in warehouses? I would have thought “Amazon puts minority workers in positions involving manual labor like warehouse maintenance” was also that kind of baseline.
Nah, I don’t give enough of a fuck to.
Here are all of the statistics that you could possibly care to want from mid-2025. The main chart that should answer this question is about two thirds of the way down and from my quick scan unsurprisingly supports @MrDibble.
A point that did not need making if we all assumed there was a discrepancy. Like I said - baseline.
Because I wanted to put some numbers in my post, since you Whiteness-lovers are all about numbers over people. Does that compute?
Yep, a typical response when a POC refuses to do the work for Whiteness.
I doubt that surprises literally anyone. Since no one questioned Dribble’s claim, only the incomplete statistics he used to make it.
Sorry, I forgot that numbers were a racist tool of oppression.