Who cares to debate the events of 9/11/2001 based upon the laws of physics?

Hot knives generally don’t disentigrate half way thru a stick of butter, so stop quoting that as fact.

Now how would a hologram be able to penetrate a building?

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Let’s assume for a moment that the power required is the square of the speed as you claim. So double the speed would mean four times the power, triple the speed would require nine times the power, four times the speed would require sixteen times the power, etc. The problem is that you are using units for that power, and the equation is unitless. The solution would change depending on what unit you use. In your example, 1000 hp x 1000 hp equals 1,000,000 hp, or 1,000 times the power, not four times the power. But if you simply converted the power to a different unit, such as watts, you would get a different answer: 1,000 hp is 745,700 watts, and would be 745,700 watts x 745,700 watts. So simply by measuring the power in watts instead of horsepower means that it is now saying that doubling the speed needs 745,700 times as much power. (If you call it calories, then according to your reasoning, a doubling of speed would need 641,186,485 times as much power.)

(Of course all of the above is conveniently ignoring the fact that your version of the equation would result in “square horsepower”, whatever the hell that is.)

Now do you get it?

(That is a rhetorical question. Obviously, I know that you never will.)

No, you’re stating an unsupported opinion and conspiracy theory as fact. You’re claiming violations of the laws of physics without scientific proof.

WE do not NEED to discuss this and we certainly do not need to agree that this was a conspiracy of lies.

People who actually know about this stuff have shown how it happened. People who were there - and people on TV, witnessed it. I trust the word of my state building standards setting sister over random strangers claiming “CONSPIRACY!”

This is a board for dispelling ignorance, not spreading it.

First of all, I’m not in to speculation about HOW it was done
suffice to say it was an illusion and it is NOT necessary to know exactly how an illusion was done in order to know that it was an illusion.

Note that in the process of punching a hole in the wall of the skyscraper, the airliner would have had to expend energy ( displacing mass to make the hole … )
and as such there would have to be deceleration of the airliner,
now can you relate to what >45g means ( old space program reference to g forces )
this is a fact that the airliner would have experienced stress caused by said g force.
if there was energy and time enough to displace mass and create a hole in the side of the tower, there was most certainly time & energy available to break up the airliner into a multitude of bits before it had a chance to disappear inside the building.

For people who have forgotten their middle & high school science class material, I most strongly recommend that you take advantage of the resources available on the web and do a bit of a brush up on the material, If I were to spoon-feed people the references, one could assume that I’m adding in my personal bias. ( oops )
Note that this matter is one of importance to the entire human race here, the fact is that this BIG LIE is being used to leverage other bits of psychological warfare and manipulate the public in to consuming crap nobody needs.
exposing the lie ends wars of aggression.
who wants peace?

Let’s see if I get the math. The warp factor is the cube root of the velocity, so if the plane is flying at 8 times the speed of light, that’s warp factor two. 27 times the speed of light is warp three, and so on. Is that about it?

You should go on Penn & Teller, Fool Us.

where did you get that “4 times the power” figure
If I have to provide sources …
well ?

Hey, I never realized that you were that Cochrane!

very funny
but not productive of anything
do you deny that the power required to propel an object through air
increases exponentially as the speed increases linearly?

( I’ve already cited a source, do I need to repeat myself? )

What the fuck do you think “squared” means???

See the smiley? That means I’m mocking the idea.
Do bullets mushroom at the first contact with skin or do they penetrate as they expand?
Velocity was roughly 850 ft per second, a 767 is 201 feet long. So .25 seconds for the entire plane to enter the building.
Even though it’s breaking up, it’s not turning to powder. All that mass is still there. Did you notice the blast of flame out the side opposite the entry?

Of course, the thing you’re forgetting is that the impact did not bring the towers down.
Let’s hear your laughably bullshit theories on that.

“nothing can stop it.” energy is finite and in the case of the falling skyscraper
if the falling mass that is allegedly driving the action, is descending at 64% of the acceleration of gravity, that means its only impressing 36% of its weight upon whatever is below it.

And each floor adds it’s mass (and energy) to the falling mass. Like I said, the bolts and welds holding the floors together can’t handle a sudden dynamic load.

Experiment for you to try. Find a small weight, a few pounds. Tie a thin string around it and lift it slowly.
The string should hold. Now lift it with a sudden jerk. The string will snap. Same idea but falling.

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of course “All that mass is still there” however, does bird shot have the same impact as a solid lead slug? also, note that the mushroom effect of a hollow point is a function of the resistance it encounters, an airliner striking a steel box column wall would encounter serious resistance from the moment that the nose touched the wall.

indeed, the alleged airliner impacts did not cause the immediate fall of the towers, the controlled demolition had to wait until the proper moment for maximum dramatic effect. Do you really believe that the upper 15% of a skyscraper could cause the complete and total destruction of said skyscraper by collapsing down on the remaining 85%?

so you choose to completely ignore the fact of that 64% of the acceleration of gravity
right? …

Yes, especially since the weight on the lower floors increases as the mass of the floors above them accumulates.

Striking the column in the middle of the building. So the plane was well inside.
Did you notice how the tower collapsed from the top?
And yes, the 15% can because it went one floor at a time, adding the mass of each floor as it went. The 15% didn’t need to take out the 85%, only the next 1%. And then the next 1%. And the next. And the next.

The upper floors of the buildings were not in unimpeded freefall, they were being slowed down by having to break the floors below them.