::blowing nose::
Check them out. They’re under the “best director” and “best screenplay” tabs.
::blowing nose::
Check them out. They’re under the “best director” and “best screenplay” tabs.
That has the be the best movie ever made.
“You bow to no one.”
Even made me cry just viewing a 30 second clip!
::is very dissapointed that there were no Oscar nods for acting::
::rejoices that there are eleven technical Oscar nods::
::is very conflicted::
::ow::
::is sad that she can’t code::
When we saw the movie in the theatre, I didn’t cry, mostly. I came close a whole lot of times, and did cry at the "you bow to no one " line. And, like GuanoLad, damned if that tiny little clip made me cry all over again.
One of the best movies ever!
I cried when instead of ending the movie, they went on, and on. And on. I was sobbing like a little girl, I just wanted it to end.
They did get it right didn’t they? “You bow to no one” chokes me up just thinking about it.
You know, I’ve heard several people say this (include some movie reviewers), so when so re-re-re-watched the movie again the other day I paid special attention to see where these so called “neverending endings” complaints were coming from.
It’s hard to define what counts as “an ending”, but there are a few places where there are significant pauses between scenes. Counted this way, there are only FOUR “additional endings”:
On the slopes of Mt. Doom, the scene where Gandalf arrives with the eagles. Followed by the bedroom reunion scene between the members of the Fellowship. I dare ANYONE to say that these scenes are superfluous. They were absolutely essential.
Aragorn’s coronation, Arwen’s arrival and “you bow to no one.” Again, I don’t think anyone could say that these scenes were unnecessary. In fact, they’re vital to the plot.
Hobbits return to the Shire. Sam gets married to Rosie. VERY important scene about how Frodo can never go home again “How to pick up the pieces of an already shattered life.” “There are some things that can never heal.” sniff I cannot comprehend how anyone who cares at all about good storytelling (this is the entire POINT of the movie) could think this should have been cut from the movie.
Grey Havens. Bilbo and Frodo sail away. While the pace is somewhat slow, this scene is probably less than five minutes. And it’s absolutely essential to the story. Frodo’s life is basically destroyed. You can’t just end the movie with him in the Shire. And you can’t just do a ten-second shot of “Well, it’s been swell. See you… never again. Bye.”
Me too, dammit… me too. snif
I cry in movies once a decade only… and I let some tears drop with that scene too !
I’ve seen ROTK five times, and those little clips had me bawling like a baby all over again. :o
The Gandalf and Pippin clip rips your heart out, too. Ian McKellen’s musical, heartfelt voice and Billy Boyd’s childish face combine to tear me up.
::sniveling::
Apart from the ‘you bow to no-one’ line, what bits was I supposed to cry at?
In response to the never-ending-endings observations, I’ll just repost what I posted just after I saw it…
It had a really good ending with Sam and Frodo sitting on a rock, crying and saying what they really wanted.
Then they got rescued by some big eagles - fair enough, they get rescued so everyone lives happily ever after, I can live wih that.
Then Aragorn gets coronated - OK it’s called Return of the King, so we see him at his coronation, I can live with that.
The he gets off with the Elven bird - mmm, Okay.
Then he tells the Hobbits ‘You bow to no-one’ - woohooo! great ending - these dimunitive little hobbits are held with great esteem and everyone is happy.
Then the Hobbits go home - like I care.
Hobbits go to the pub - getting bored now.
Fat Hobbit gets married - so? Why is this in the film?
Old Hobbit gets on the elf boat - we haven’t seen this guy for over 8 hours of film and I’m supposed to care if he goes to the elves.
Frodo gets on the boat - bored now, can I go home?
Fat Hobbit goes home - lucky bastard, at least I can go now.
Glad to have another legitimate chance to say how much I loved this movie and how emotional it made me. Glad that there are others who enjoyed it too. !!!
fFor those who didn’t like the “endings”, keep in mind the filmmakers were trying to please both book fans and those who hadn’t read the book. Believe me, a lot was still left out at the end. And also, believe me, there were many of us who cared about what happened to all the hobbits afterward. The veterans return - some broken beyond repair, some to the kind of life they all fought for. It really was the point of the whole epic, quest, thing…
I really hope this “endings” debate doesn’t rob ROTK of the Academy Award.
Crowned. Not Coronated.
Thankyou Tuco. It got so damned repetitive and boring I just wanted it to be over. I know loyalty to books is good, but sometimes its neccessary to change and cut things to make a better movie.
Thanks for the link. I’m feeling a bit melancholy that it’s all almost over.
I really don’t get all the complaints about the ending(s). Anyone who has spent 9 hours (presumably) with these characters and doesn’t care enough about them to enjoy spending 20 minutes seeing the fruits of their labors has been at the wrong movies. Lord knows there are plenty of soulless CGI-fests with no messy emotion or character development available for their viewing pleasure.
Not only is the bedroom scene superfluous, it was terrible. I hated hated hated that scene, all that was necesary was for Frodo to see Gandalf alive and maybe Sam. The hobbits jumping on the bed and the fellowship showing up one after another was just wince inducing. The rest of the endings where pretty good, though i could have done without Sams wedding, and i don’t see why Merry and Pippin got as much props as Frodo and Sam on that “you bow to no one scene”, IMHO they should’ve been bowing to Frodo and Sam too. In fact if i remember correctly in the book Merry and Pippin where actually serving food at Frodo and Sams celebration banquet.
If you’ve read the books, then you know that they actually cut out quite a bit of the ending as it happened in there. What we saw in the theatre was pretty much the bare-bones version needed to get us to the final words of the film (which were the last words in the book as well).
Of course, many of the people criticizing the ending for being too long right now would probably also be saying “But what happens to Frodo? He just goes back to his hobbit-hole?” if it was any shorter. I seriously doubt any of the “endings” Tuco describes would be satisfying to many viewers. This was a story with multiple threads, all of which had to be wrapped up in some fashion at the end. As it stands, at least one of them wasn’t (this will probably be in the Extended Edition I wager).
Still, the film ended where it should, and did a damn fine job of it.