As in ‘roger that’ ?
Or,
Did you get that?
Roger!
Any thoughts?
Once in a while you can get shown the light
in the strangest of places
if you look at it right…
It represented the letter “R” in archaic radio communication. I don’t know what it was supposed to stand for, though (right? received?)
Roger Co was Wil’s brother.
“I don’t just want you to feel envy. I want you to suffer, I want you to bleed, I want you to die a little bit each day. And I want you to thank me for it.” – What “Let’s just be friends” really means
BTW- Wilco is short for “will comply”.
Isn’t Roger’s brother always getting fired at?
When people had to pound out their messages to each other with a telegraph key, one letter at a time, in Morse Code, (in the snow, uphill, both ways, yadda, yadda. . .) There was very strong tendency to abbreviate things. It was also a bit more tenuous as to whether the guy at the other end was still there, still receiving your messages, or able to decipher your ability to send code. So, after each message received, you would send a confirmation. At first that was the word “received“. Received is a long word. The hell with that, just send an “r” all by itself, and the other ham operator, who hated sending code as much as you did, would understand. When you read a message, out loud, you use the word code for individual letters, in this case, “Roger.”
Modern science being the marvel that it is, those same old fossils who sent Morse were still alive when radio had become mostly voice, and were still in the habit of acknowledging each and every message received by sending that single letter r in response. Only now, when you said it out loud, you replied “Roger” to the message. It only took one or two wars to spread the habit out to a few million soldiers, and then into the language. Roger now means “recieved and understood” in English. No one sends Morse Code by hand anymore. Well, almost no one, and you wouldn’t want to talk with them anyway, they are such weird old geeks.
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And FWIW, it’s inappropriate to say “over and out”. “Over” is used when the person has finished speaking and is waiting for a response; “out” is used when the person has concluded the communication.
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I beg your pardon. I know several young and VERY large people who would dispute your characterisation of them as “weird old geeks”. I know morse code, but I never use it.
Keith
AKA VE5KIS
You want brilliance BEFORE I’ve had my coffee!!!
I use “roger” when I fly, but more often I just use the last three characters of the aircraft. Colloquially, saying “2-8-Tango” conveys the message, “I have received and understood your last transmission, and this is Cessna N1128T replying.”
I think I’ve heard “wilco” twice since I started flying, and never since I started flying helicopters. What with the jokes about “Roger, wilco, A-Okay!”, it just sounds funny.
“I must leave this planet, if only for an hour.” – Antoine de St. Exupéry
Are you a turtle?
Ursa Major is correct. It is an acknowledgement of having recieved the message. “R” is “recieved”.
The use of the single character comes from the days of Morse Code usage. The use of “Roger” is archaic and can still be heard in WWII and Korean War movies: Able, Baker, Charlie, Dog, etc. It was probably cooperation with non-native English speakers in Korea and later in NATO that led to the revision of these to Alpha, Bravo, Charlie, Delta, Echo, Fox, Golf, Hotel, India, Juliet, Kilo, Lima, Mike, November, Oscar, Papa, Quebec, Romeo, Sierra, Tango, Uniform, Victor, Whiskey, X-ray, Yankee, and Zulu. The new words are supposed to be easier to understand and distinguish fromother words when used by someone with an accent.
However, no one I have ever asked knows how or why BZ (Bravo Zulu) came to mean “well
done”.
FYI, they no longer teach Morse Code in the various military “A” schools anymore. They consider it too behind the times. The Navy has merged the Radioman rating with the Data Processing (computer) rating, so that all the DPs are now RMs, whether they know anything about radio comms or not. The Coast Guard has merged their RMs with the Telecommunications Specialists, but I reckon they thought calling them TS’s would be too prosaic, so they call them TCs instead.
:::::I use “roger” when I fly, but more often I just use the last three characters of the aircraft. Colloquially, saying “2-8-Tango” conveys the message, “I have received and understood your last transmission, and this is Cessna N1128T replying.”:::::::
Why is it that most pilots assume the “Chuck Yeager West Virginia drawl” when speking on the radio?..just curious…
((student pilot))
Rich “G7SUBS”
I haven’t noticed the “Chuck Yeager drawl”, myself. There is a description of it and the psychology behind it in The Right Stuff (the book), though.
I find that most pilots out here tend to talk very quickly and are very “clipped”. Probably due to the large number of aircraft flying in Southern California, and the need to gain attention quickly on a crowded frequency.
Somehow, I doubt that they use that phrase in the UK.
My husband & I both use code. He can do more than 30wpm & I would have to say he’s hardly old, nor is he a geek and niether am I.
In order to get certain ham radio licenses, you have to learn code. My husband has an extra class liscense and I’m studing for my tech license.
I know kids that are 10 that know code, so you don’t have to be an old geezer to know it. Besides, in an emergency, sometimes the only way to transmit is through code.
But I do have to giggle, because even my husband says it takes a certain type of person to want to learn. I guess we’re geeks afterall.:rolleyes: LOL Well he is, not me.
JCHeckler: I learned Foxtrot for ‘f’ … I have never heard of BZ - must be a new term. I did, however, learn and use SH (sierra hotel) to denote something outstanding.
The term originates from the Allied Signals Book (ATP 1). Signals are sent as letters and/or numbers, which have meanings by themselves sometimes or in certain combinations. A single table in ATP 1 is called “governing groups,” that is, the entire signal that follows the governing group is to be performed according to the “governor.” The letter “B” indicates this table, and the second letter (A through Z) gives more specific information. For example, “BA” might mean "You have permission to . . . (do whatever the rest of the flashing light, flag hoist or radio transmission says) “BZ” happens to be the last item in the governing groups table. It means “well done”. I don’t believe it is a relatively new term.
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Ok I realize this is a little off topic, but where does the cop radio code ‘QSL’ come from? Is it just a code (Checking signal strength?) or does the letters actually mean anything?
Also is there a logic to codes? (1020… etc)?
Q signals- Three letter symbols begining with Q. Used on CW to save time and to improve communication. Some examples are QRS (send slower)QTH (location) QSO (ham conversation) QSL (acknowledgement of reciept) QRL (Ham radio Q signal meaning “Is this frequency in use”) QSO (a conversation between to radio operators)
“73’s”
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