I am saying that “minister” is…in most usage…a broad, generic term for “clergy.”
Cite already provided in post 10, quoting an actual Catholic priest:
Not all are. As I noted: “minister” (or “clergy”) is a broad term; “priest” is a subset of minister.
So, being married by a minister is clearly NOT the same as being married by a priest (something I am 100% sure my (ex) wife would agree with). And fer sure not her mom!
They are not the same. I know…I was there. I got married in a Catholic church. It was not the same as being married in a protestant church. Indeed, the priest made it clear (notably having the congregation take communion…Catholic priest was very not cool with that).
Being married by a Protestant minister, in a Protestant ceremony, would certainly be considered to be different from being married by a Catholic priest in a Catholic ceremony.
As several of us have noted, even some Catholics agree that Catholic priests are a subset of ministers. But, clearly, at least some Catholics (including your former in-laws) believe differently. Again, YMMV.
Well, that’s my last attempt at brevity.
Was trying to keep it short and simple, and that blew up all over my face. I hardly ever post polls, though.
Note you did not say “Catholic minister.”
As mentioned before, a priest may also be a minister but a minister is not a priest. That matters to Catholics (and maybe some others…I got in trouble about defining a priest here recently).
The OP is loving the hijack.
This isn’t true. I got ordained over the internet at the Universal Life Church. I’ve performed three weddings and no judge was needed. I can do this in all 50 states. All of my weddings were non-denominational but I could do a Jewish one.
Could you do a Jewish one?
By which I mean I think the marriage would be legal in the eyes of the US government but would the Jewish religion see it as official? (really asking)
A female minister in a non-traditional setting.
My favorite ones! (really…had some great times and not about getting lucky)
I could do a Jewish one and it would be considered valid so long as all of the other elements of the ritual are correct.
That’s not what I meant.
It’s going to come down to the individual community. An Orthodox community isn’t going to let a non-Jew officiate in their shul, I’ll bet you anything, but an Orthodox marriage that is already fully contracted by ketubah, and is done and done, as far as any Jewish needs are concerned, can be made official in the eyes of the state by a guy wearing a red union suit and standing on his head during a tailgate party, and you can toast it with beer during Passover.
Long as the officiant is ordained in some way that the state recognizes.
The flip-side is that you could legally bind two people in marriage who are Jewish, as far as the state is concerned, and this could (and does) happen without a Jewish marriage being also in place, and not even in the planning.
I’m Jewish. I could perform a Jewish wedding that would be considered valid.
Oh, NOW you mention that.
I said a couple of posts earlier that I was married by a rabbi.
We were married in a park, by a friend. How happened to be a minister, who ran a troubled young outreach program, with which we both volunteered.
Moderating:
And a Rabbi isn’t ever called a “minister”, either, but the OP made it very clear that she was sloppy with the language and meant “any member of the clergy of” when she wrote “minster”.
This thread is not about the precise
For the purpose of this thread it is exactly the same.
@Whack-a-Mole , @kenobi_65 drop this hijack now.
The rules for weddings vary by states. Many states are quite liberal in whom they allow to officiate weddings. I’ve been to a few weddings officiated by a friend of the couple who got a one-day license from the state to perform the wedding. Also, in general, a justice of the peace is good enough, it doesn’t need to be a full judge.