Okay, maybe he can, but he doesn’t show that much to me on iron chef.
Wrongo. I don’t want judges to suck up to me nor do I want to ccok for a living. I just don’t want the judges to suck up to flay because he puts 10 pounds of bacon and butter together in this and that and really grade him on how he uses the secret ingredients.
Well, no matter how “vile” japanese cooking is, it was unsportsman like conduct, obnoxous, and rude.
Not really (see my 2nd comment on how I want to be nothing like him)
But that doesn’t change the fact that what he did to that guy on throwdown was mean and a cheap way of winning
Honestly, I’d probably like his food too if I had as for any iron chef. But I don’t like the way he cooks on iron chef because judges are picked that like high calories and nothing else and they pick Bobby Flay not because of how he uses the ingredient but the fact he uses 10 pounds of bacon and cream while the other guy doesn’t use as much of that stuff.
IIRC the last three times I’ve watched, Flay has lost.
IMO many of the throwdowns aren’t exactly legit in terms of anonymity. He was doing something with BBQ the other night and he made some exotic sauce, something Bubba would have never dreamed of. And in some cases, Flay’s presentation is going to be a dead giveaway. So the judges must know who made what in some cases. Anonymous?
I do think that Bobby Flay has a bit of an ego. He also seems to have an unnatural thing for anchor chili powder. However, I did eat a Mesa Grill last Saturday and I have to say that the food was fantastic.
I have an extremely strong dislike for most of the personalities on the Food Network. Flay has settled down some, and doesn’t come off as an arrogant douche as often as he used to. But for me he fails the litmus test of any good chef, in that he’s not overweight. I just can’t trust a chef who doesn’t have a few extra pounds on him (or her, huzza Paula Dean!)
Okay, the other chefs do use lots of fat too but the difference is Bobby flay does almost the same thing over and over again and I find Bobby Flay doesn’t incorperate the taste of the secret ingredient much at all in a lot of his dishes but he still wins because his food “tastes good”. It’s so comical. In this one recent battle with Langosta as the secret ingredient, he uses lots of bacon, cream, and whatnot, the judges say, “oh it tastes so good, but I cant find the secret ingredient taste”, and Flay’s like, “I put the secret ingredient here and there, even used langosta butter”. And judges are like, “Well Flay, you can do this with any meat, and it would taste the same”, and he wins that. Then there’s aother one where he took on this Spanish chef who cooks in DC (which he lost, thankfully), and he cooks up some goat (the secret ingredient) meetballs, which are mixed with pork, and put in the deep fryer, and that’s the only thing with goat on his plate. One judge says, “Well, this could be girble meat and it would taste the same”.
Doctor J debunked nothing. While Bobby Flay may lose more than he wins, he wins in very mean, obnoxious, and unfair ways when he does. Before you or anybody asks, “What exactly do you mean?” read this link about his chowder wars he unfairly won.
I read something Bourdain wrote once where he claimed the Throwdown show was developed specifically because the Food Network’s research was showing that audiences perceived Flay as arrogant. Bourdain intimated that Flay was basically throwing the battles on Throwdown to make himself look more humble and less cocky. Another thing he always does is praise his opponents extravagantly. Bourdain claims that whole show is about making Flay appear more likeable, I guess as a strategy to make him a more appealing product and pitchman. Bourdain said something like “come on, do you really think Bobby Flay can’t make a better cheesesteak than some street vendor?”
So, according to Bourdain anyway, Throwdown is “fixed,” but it’s staged to show Flay getting smacked down and humbled, not winning.
Perhaps. But when they had the BBQ throwdown (with spareribs), I could definitely say by watching the episode that whatever Flay was making, it wasn’t true barbecue, and I’m not at all surprised he lost the throwdown.
langosta, I think is mistaken for lobster. It’s a meat that the announcers said cooks really fast so you either cook it early or in the end of the match so it looked like time might run out to plate everything. Also, the meat has a sweet taste that isn’t real strong meaning if you use heavy sauces and whatnot, you don’t taste the langosta, and flay being flay…
But dispite that, the battle was still interesting because the way the secret ingredient was, it looked like someone wouldn’t finish.
You do understand that all the drama in ICJapan was fake? The Chairman is just an actor? The tension of all “battles” was made up? Hell they made Morimoto into some sort of humorless food warrior when actually he is a big goof who can’t keep a grin of his face in real life. Notice how all that fake soap opera drama is missing from IC America? Does Bobby Flay jump up on the cooking board now? Of course not, it was part of the show (I do miss the fake soap opera drama) . They needed a villian for the show and he gave them one.
Not to me since I’m straight but apparently his good looking enough to nab Stephanie March . I’m impressed.
And I love his cooking.
What you described sure sounds like lobster to me and langosta is Spanish for lobster. I suppose there could be another food called langosta that isn’t lobster but I’m curious to know what it might be.
I can’t stand Flay. I find him incredibly arrogant and downright rude at times, and I hate his “Throwdown” for all the reasons stated in that link about the chowder cookoff. They trick people into thinking they’re ready for their own 15 minutes of fame, when all of a sudden they’re thrown into some contest unprepared whilst Bobby comes in saying, basically, that he can cook what they’ve been cooking specifically for years much better than they can, and he’ll prove it.
In the langoustine battle, I found it arrogant yet again when the judge was saying she couldn’t taste it, and he immediately got on the defensive, listing all where it was used, and she said that she knows it’s in there, just can’t taste it.
No shit Flay, of course she knows it’s in there, do you think that they somehow assumed you didn’t use the secret ingredient? :rolleyes:
Overall I find him just irritating and kind of a downright punk. I wish Food Network would cut him loose, but of course they won’t.
Alton Brown I could do with a lot more. I watch him every time I’m able to catch him.
And Robert Irvine I would just want to catch. In a net. And drag him off to a room filled with massage oils. God that man’s built like a truck, and I wanna [censored censored censored] his [censored censored], and [censored] his [censored] before finally [Oh GOD censored for the sake of the children!]
I’m sorry, but I reject you totally. with Paula Dean’s show you can play such fun games like what will she start the next recipe with:
a) 1 lb. of butter
b) 1 lb. of bacon
c) 1 lb. of lard
I have never had a Paula Dean recipe come out poorly. Her recipes rock.
Flay on the other hand. He had a show where a bunch of friends came over and he made some type of spare rib concoction using peanut butter. All of his guests raved at how good it was. It sounded different, but what the hey, I’m always up for a new way to enjoy ribs. I downloaded the recipe and followed it to the letter.
It was horrible. We threw the ribs away. I can honestly say that this is the only time in my life, I have thrown ribs out uneaten. They were unfucking eatable. Those ribs were a crime against humanity.
Sorry at that point I might watch him sometimes, but I won’t ever use any of his recipes again.
I do watch throwdown, cause it is fun to see him get his ass handed to him on a regular basis. If you get a chance to see the one where he goes up against Paula Dean, watch it. they start fucking with each other dishes during the cook. BF comes off like a regular person in that one.
