Who Wants To Be A Phaedrusaire?

Manhattan: I understand your counter offer and as everyone knows the likes of what is about to transpire is something that has probably never been seen on the internet because people do not take personal responsibility for their actions. I am a libertarian and I take very serious the consequences for every action of mine. This is a concept that is rare in today’s world in the “face to face” making it so rare as to be completely unheard of on the Internet. All I can say to that is we are in sad shape.

Let me tell you why I believe your counter is illegitimate. Yes, your first post made certain allusions to splitting up the money. You stated it was a proposal. What was my response? I did not agree to it. But then you “shot off your mouth” (a reference I made to myself in my letter to Manny) and negated the whole thing.

Quote: manhattan Member posted 01-14-2000 05:50 PM

“And cagey bee, tell Phaedrus he owes me ten grand.”

Quote: manhattan Member posted 01-14-2000 10:01 PM

“So where’s my 10 Grand?”

Not one but two slips of the tongue. I made just one and I consider it binding, you should do the same. Since I am the one paying the money I would have to agree to the terms. I never agreed to your terms. You made an allusion to some terms and then turned quickly around and negated them claiming all the money for yourself.

Further in the thread you started you made your offer to others because you believed I wouldn’t pay you. Now you know you were wrong (or you will when you get the money). I am going to pay you, you and ONLY you.

I have been trying to leave here but things keep happening that seem to prolong it. I am asking everyone to do all that they can to send me on my way. I want to leave and I don’t want this to become some interminable argument quibbling over the details of our business transaction.

I sent you an e-mail today and after that you posted here so I assume you got it. In case you didn’t here it is.

"Dear mahattan,

As you know if you have been following the thread you started, it has become uglier than even I could imagine. Yet, I offered the money and you did the work so YOU get the prize. Many on the board do not understand me and you know, at’s cool. But I was not kidding about the offer and I am trying feverishly to make one last post and then leave. In that last post will be instructions as to how you can obtain your “prize”. I am not a wealthy man but I will give you the money. I was too hasty and shot my mouth off when I should have kept quiet, oh well, live and learn. I will include the instructions publicly so that others will know that I was not lying and that I am a man of my word. The instructions will be simple and will not include anything unreasonable on your part. I will not set up all kinds of hoops for you to jump through. This is not some kind of game for me and I consider the net to be more real than the face to face world. Read the thread, “Internet Intoxication” to see what I am talking about. Three or four posts down is mine.

It is sad that this came to such a pass, but then I am unfamiliar with much that goes on in the net and message boards in particular.

Please respond to this if you are really interested in the money. If you don’t I will mention that in the last post and make the offer one last time.

Yours Sincerely,

Ken Beacon"

A note: Monday was the jury selection and we got stuck with the “jury from Hell”! A bunch of Neo-nazi’s to try a man who committed no crime and may spend years in prison for being at the wrong place at the wrong time. I am nervous about all of it. Tomorrow is the trial and I will be in PA tomorrow and perhaps Thurs. if it takes longer than usual.
Ken

No problem, Phaedrus.
GO AWAY! GO AWAY! GO AWAY!
Glad to help.

Felice

“There’s always a bigger fish.”

Phaedrus burbled:

Yeah. Uh-huh. Whatever.

Sorry Phaedrus, the offer was accepted and the consideration tendered in return, thus making a complete contract. You cannot add terms to it after it has been executed. Manny is free to do what he wants with HIS money, answerable only to his CPA.

-Melin


“I’ll never argue with a lawyer again.” – The Devil Himself.

S’cuse me. Not “after it has been executed.” After it has been performed.

Carry on.

-Melin

Elmer Fudd: As I was saying…


JMCJ

This could be YOUR sig line! For just five cents a post, JMCJ Enterprises will place YOUR sig line at the bottom of each message!

Melin, are you sure?

May I remind you that Phaedrus is also an attorney?


Keyboard not found. Press F1 to continue.

**Phaedrus[/]b:

I did not receive an email from you. Thank you for reposting it in this thread. For the record, I “pinged” my HTTP mail server earlier at 11:50 AM Eastern Time today and received a response in three minutes. I “re-pinged” at 7:40 ET this evening after reading your post, and have not yet received that one back, so I obviously have to have a few words with my email provider. I shall respond before your trial is done.

Good luck with that, BTW.

John Corrado: Don’t make me turn this thread around! If I have to stop, there will be hell to pay!

Livin’ on Tums, vitamin E and Rogaine

I hate UBB code.

Well, well, well. The devil rears his ugly head.

Melin, I’m glad you made your earlier post; I was of the same opinion concerning Phaedy’s obligations to fulfill his contract. I’m happy to see someone, with more knowledge of contract law than I, to post what I believe to be true.

I’m still skeptical, though. I wonder why that is.


That it is unwise to be heedless ourselves while we are giving advice to others, I will show in a few lines.
– Phædrus –

Phaedrus may or may not be a lawyer, but Melin is right. Basic contract law is easy: you have to have an offer, an acceptance, and consideration for a contract to be valid. Once one party tenders his or her consideration by performing under the contract, the other party is required to perform as well – which, in this case, means ponying up the money. Not that I’m holding my breath.

Oh, and God help his client if it’s the day before trial and he’s futzing around on the message board.


Jodi

Fiat Justitia

Sake:

Buzz Aldrin talks about such a ship in Encounter with Tiber.

Aldrin’s ship accelerates by a “laser” from it’s home system, makes a slight course change and launches a “mirror” ahead of itself.

It then decelerates by the deflection of light from the “mirror.” The mirror just keeps going.

Good point:

I’ve stretched present technology in my posts (and been called on it.)

We’re not close to anything like what Aldrin or you describe yet, though I have read about somebody launching a “pie plate,” to significant altitude with a laser.


Often wrong… NEVER in doubt

HUH?

Sorry, posted in wrong thread.

:frowning:


Often wrong… NEVER in doubt

Jodi, I suspect the existence of Phaedrus’ clients is on a par with the existence of his definitive proof that modern evolutionary ideas are wrong.


The Coyote gnaws …
but he does not swallow.

Hmmmm . . . Sock Puppet clients? Well, I bet he wins a lot, then – probably almost every case.


Jodi

Fiat Justitia

Hey, don’t underestimate those sock puppets, Jodi. They might just give him a run for his money.

Manny, what?

I was just telling Elmer that I thought it was a bit early to say that Phaedrus has left us forever simply because we hadn’t seen him in a bit.

Two hours later, Phaedrus pops back in to give us a few parting words before, and he really means it this time, he leaves us for good.

I guess I was just crowing a bit over my intuitive grasp of Phaerdus’ character. But it’s not like I was going to tell James Randi to fork over the money for my amazing psychic powers.

I’m not taking offense; I’m just confused as to your reaction…


JMCJ

This could be YOUR sig line! For just five cents a post, JMCJ Enterprises will place YOUR sig line at the bottom of each message!

The check’s in the mail, J.C. I’m just a crazy optimist, I guess.

If anybody wants to go to the trouble, a simple search of the directories of the fifty or so Bar Associations in the US for a K. Beacon, would probably put a end to this nonsense.


Elmer J. Fudd,
Millionaire.
I own a mansion and a yacht.

Martindale-Hubbell returned no listings of an attorney whose last name is “Beacon.” Here’s the link: http://lawyers.martindale.com/marhub

That doesn’t guarantee it, of course. But it’s one piece of evidence.

-Melin