OK I said it… it’s out there. You’ve got 20% of Hillary supporters voting for him anyway. Plus McCain can pick up where the Democratic party blundered. It’s kind of weird when you think about how Hillary was so completely shunned by the party… her and her 18 million voters.
The fundies’ alliance with right wing Jews and support for Israel is not based on any genuine respect but upon self-serving political goals and the belief that Jesus can’t come back until the Temple is rebuilt in Israel. Once Jesus comes back they still fully expect the Jews to burn in Hell, and many of them say explicitly that they believe that will not vote for a non-Christian of any stripe, period. Their professed respect for Judaism is, at heart, disingenuous. They still think it’s a false religion.
Orthodox Jews think the same thing about fundies, for that matter.
Of course they each believe that the other is a false religion. But the agenda is the same. Quite a few Orthodox Jews were strong supporters of Bush for that reason. And it goes the other way: Better a Jew who will work for the agenda than a nominative Christian who is not so inclined.
And what torques me is how a good number of them say Roman Catholics and Mormons aren’t Christians! Yeah, let’s vote for a candidate based on his religion. Why bother with checking out his political stance? :rolleyes:
Re Cantor or another Jewish VP- There are fundies who only support Israel/Jews out of their view of Bible prophecy & there are conservative C’tians who support them for a myriad of Biblical & political reasons. And even fundies may see a GOP Prez ticket with a conservative Jewish VP as better than a liberal Christian (or covert Muslim ) Prez.
I am thinking Rumsfeld would be an excellent choice for McCain’s running mate. He already knows what is going on in Iraq and can help keep those policies going just the way they are now.
McCain went all crazy showing those ads with Biden criticizing Obama knowing full well that if picks Romney the favor will be returned in kind. The Democrats probably have the video already put together just in case. Knowing this it seems all but certain he has chosen Pawlenty. True, no one knows who the hell he is outside of my state and there’s plenty of doubt he could carry my state, but he won’t cost McCain any votes.
Being from CT I’ve known Joe Lieberman for many years…he’s jumped sides from Dem to Independant and is buddy buddy with McCain. But for all his strengths I doubt we’ll see him on the ticket. McCain has to be very careful who he picks, Obama evened out his ticket nicely, McCain should do the same…but I’ll be surprised if he picks Pawlenty. I’m excited to find out though, not that I think it will matter too much…Although, is McCain picks Romney, then we will have quite a race, because Romney will bring the Christian vote back McCain’s way.
Romney wouldn’t bring McCain religious voters if he grew a beard, starting wearing a robe and sandals and displayed stigmata on his wrists. If Romney had the Christian vote in the primaries, he would have won the whole thing. He didn’t, because he couldn’t connect with those people.
I really think Romney is the worst choice McCain could make, at least among the reasonable contenders. This in accordance with a theory I developed during the primaries. It goes like this: people fucking hate Mitt Romney. He is so transparently phony that people who agree with him barely put up with him, and people who don’t just can’t stand him. He’s got a preppy, apple-polisher quality - I’m not just venting my own feelings here, I really do think a lot of people got this impression of him - and it just reminds people what they don’t want in a politician. Nobody who votes their faith is going to vote for Romney (other than a Mormon), nobody voting for the guy they want to have a beer with is going to vote for Romney, and nobody who is a doctrinaire conservative is going to vote for Romney, as we saw in the primaries, because he doesn’t have the credentials.
How is the Mormon, pro-choice, pro-gay marriage ex-governor of Massachusetts going to bring John McCain religious voters? I know he’s singing a different tune these days, but nobody believed him in the primaries, so why would they suddenly be interested in him now? It doesn’t make sense. Romney garnered votes from economic conservatives, not religious voters. The religious voters went for Huckabee. Maybe Romney helps McCain economically, but I’m not seeing it.
I just don’t see it being Lieberman. Sure he’s pals with McCain and all, but it seems to me that 8 years later, he’s still got the stink of a loser on him. I still remember the “Sore/Loserman” bumper stickers pretty clearly.
Pawlenty seems like a pretty bland, but safe choice in terms of negatives. But I don’t think he gains you anything.
Condi Rice would be the worst choice he could make in terms of campaign strategy. It plays right into the Democrats McSame tactics.
Undergarments aside, I think Romney’s probably the guy. Not a great choice for all the reasons already mentioned, but the business wing of the party seems to love him. He just looks like a stronger pick than T-Paw.
I agree with all of this. I think Romeny would be a giant gift to Obama. The only plus he has is money. If McCain picks him it would look like a desperate move to me. Plus, I don’t think McCain even likes Romney. The meme that Romney delivers Michigan sounds dubious to me as well. Anyone from the great lakes state here have any insight on this?
Underlining mine, is this now exactly why the republicans will love him?? It worked for GW…he’s as phony as they come. I would consider it a gift if he was chosen. Personally, I don’t think anyone McCain chooses will be able to really bump the pubbies this time…
Well, Romney lambasted McCain in the primaries, and the dems would have a whole slew of great sound bites of Romney Slamming McCain to use. Where the pubbies only have one from Biden against Obama… Go ahead John, pick Romney!