Don’t you find it weird that she released the tape to the media? If you were divorced and not getting along with your ex-husband regarding custody issues, would you call your local paper and blab it to everyone your kid went to school with and all of your neighbors?
Don’t you think it makes it worse for this kid that not only did she have an argument with dad but the whole world knows about it?
Kim sure as hell isn’t thinking about her daughter either.
The guy who runs the TMZ website was on Kevin & Bean’s show on KROQ this morning. He said that Baldwin called back right after leaving this message and apologized for the outburst. I haven’t been to the TMZ website so I don’t know if this information has been included in the article.
You said it. As a father of 2, their attitude makes me sick, frankly. I’ve yelled at my 10 year old before, but I’ve never once insulted him. Besides being an assholish thing to do, it lowers you to the level of a child and from then on, you’ll never have their respect again.
No, she isn’t. Between the two of them I don’t think their daughter has a hope in hell of growing up to be a normal, well-adjusted adult.
First her father verbally attacks her, then her mother broadcasts it to the world. :rolleyes:
I hope it’s true that he called back and apologized right away. I’m one of those who heard this kind of tirade from my father on many occasions, though he eventually apologized – years later. It’s not acceptable behavior for anyone, especially a parent addressing their child, but it isn’t uncommon either. I hope Baldwin takes this opportunity to listen to how awful he sounds and change his tune right away.
Maybe he’s trying to keep his kid from turning into a spoiled brat like Paris Hilton? I’m sure she’d be well on her way if she were so inclined, being that she has money and inherited celebrity. He apologized and such. Haven’t you ever emailed/left a voice message to a loved one, lashing out after being hurt? I know I sure have. I of course regret it, but it’s hard to say given the situation.
Look, I don’t know who is right in this situation, but I don’t think Alec’s behavior on his own means that he is a monster. I can easily see him getting angry about his daughter like that. I was a little brat at that age, I’m sure and although my parents didn’t normally resort to name-calling, I wouldn’t be surprised if they had a few times.
Anyway, I do think it is telling that Kim Bassinger leaked the tape, if she in fact did leak it. That is much more immature than what Alec Baldwin did. It’s using your kid and bringing private affairs between two different people out into the open in order to defame someone. It’s not like she’s in a desperate situation. She’s only doing it to score points. But we also must consider the possibility that she isn’t responsible for leaking it either.
I think it’s time for a sit down with Bono and the Moore/Willis clan. Show those bitches how it’s done.
Well, I still think it’s mighty mild (compare it with the typical Pitting here) and, especially if it isn’t his usual behavior and apologized immediately afterward, nothing that any of you people need to be so harsh about. Some pre-teens and teens, not just ones being jerked between two divorced and well-off parents, spend a few years living in the Land of Trolls and need a good talking-to now and then. If none of yours did then I’m happy for you, but only some of that was because of your brilliant parenting skillz–some was because of your brilliant genes. 
OTOH, young Miss Baldwin has apparently benefitted from neither so a bit of trollish behavior can be expected.
Sampiro, I had forgotten that Tatum was such an awful parent that she lost custody to JOHN FREAKIN’ MC INROE, the King of Verbal Abuse Toward Line Judges.
[HIJACK]Imagine a child (and there are three of them) that has Ryan O’Neal for a grandfather and John McEnroe for a father: the genes of two world class Rhodium Medal Class assholes comingling in one mortal form. Even the girls probably have at least one Y chromosome and the boys at least 2 each.
Tatum’s mother was a piece of work herself (15/16 year old boyfriends when she was in her 30s, drugs, alcohol, etc.) and Tatum is a recovering heroin addict. My guess is that those are some kids that would make Mary Poppins stop singing, pick up an extension cord and just start flailing with all her might at any ass-like object in a 5 foot radius while Maria von Trapp stands by with a taser and a baseball bat.[/HIJACK]
Maybe so, but there are just too many variables and dynamics in things like this for “what we would have done” to apply to “what he should have done”. Unless he is completely batshit, he didn’t blast her like this just out of nowhere. There had to be a history, experiences of the kind that we have not encountered. I mean, I’m not saying that I know one way or the other, but neither does anyone else. I don’t recall ever raising my voice to my daughter, let alone insulting her the way he did, but then my daughter isn’t his daughter, and my life hasn’t been his.
when i heard this on the news this morning, i thought, “who does baldwin think he is??!! elton john??!!” (i did and do enjoy elton john’s, “pig! pig! rude, vile, pig!” rant. so refreshingly bleepless.)
ms bassinger def. wasn’t thinking of her daughter’s best interest in this. just imagine that poor kid in school with classmates calling her lil’ piggy, miss piggy, etc. just lovely, bad enough dad did it, now tormenting kids will as well.
both parents are not thinking of the daughter.
I certainly don’t approve of Alec Baldwins behavior. It was wrong and deserves scorn. But any parent of reasonably intelligent childeren is going to blow there lid once or twice in their lives. Getting under their parents skin is their job. Add to that a wife that is clearly encouraging her 11 year old to get under his skin and you’ve got a recipe for a major blowout with anybody thats not on tranquilizers.
What Alec Baldwin did was wrong. What Ms. Bassinger did is reprehensible, and I will never watch anything she is in again.
I’m going to try to find the link to the article where tennis instructors, swim instructors and nannies were interviewed about celebrity kids.
It was the most hilarious thing I’ve ever read. These parents don’t have a clue how to handle kids and they could care less and the kids are such brats you can’t believe it. OMG, it was a riot. The kids were 4 and 5 telling the people that they were boss and to shut up. One swim instructor said the mother let the little kid take food into the pool with him on a tube and the kid ate while he was trying to give the lesson. He said the whole pool was filled with floating sushi.
It was exactly how you’d expect a kid with a vain, self absorbed celebrity to act. I’ll try to find the link.
The man’s an immature piece of shit - period. I wonder what the tone in this thread would resemble if the person leaving that message was someone like Ben Stein or Tom Selleck.
His behavior certainly fits that bill.
Why would I care who it was? I don’t have any special feelings for Alec Baldwin. If anything I have more respect for Ben Stein. Oh I get it, its the old “liberals hold conservatives to a higher standard” BS that FOX likes to promote. That’s what they said about Imus too.
I know people are really touchy about this kind of thing, but a dude that talks like that to another human being–especially a child-- belongs in a padded room, IMHO of course. I hope the child’s mother (or someone close to her) and gives her a long hug and lets her know that she is not responsible for her dad making an “ass of himself,” God has not damned her phone due to it not being turned on, she has an abundance of brains and decency as a human being, that her age is worth remembering, that her mother is capable of thought, that she has not humiliated her father, that she is not the one in control of her father’s emotions, that her ass is the right amount of straightness and needs no further straightening, that she’s not rude, that she’s not thoughtless, and that she’s not a pig. That would be the first step in cleaning up the damage done by this self-centered psycho. I find it extremely unsettling that so many see this as an ordinary “lecture” or an otherwise harmless interaction. IMHO, YMMV, etc.
Oh fergawdsakes. ‘Disrespecting’ by not taking a call. Give me a break. A man who gets that exercised about a kid being a flaky person needs serious help. I hope Baldwin’s getting some.
The child needs correction and discipline. She shouldn’t be expected to behave like a little adult. She should not be verbally abused by her father or have her personal life made public by anyone. If the tapes were released by her mother, she was betrayed.
For crying out loud, don’t call your child or teenager names! They are not adults and can be way too sensitive! They might believe you! Once said, you can’t really take it back. Some of them will remember it for the rest of their lives. It may be just a momentary temper tantrum for you, but she will remember that her father called her a pig.
How about: “When you didn’t keep your promise to take my call, I felt hurt and angry. You have done this before. You will not be allowed to have your cell phone with you for the next vacation with me. Do you understand why?”
She may be spoiled and bratty, but we have no evidence of that except the recorded words of an abusive parent in a rage.
The laws of the State of Tennessee would require me to report Alec Baldwin for child abuse if I overheard this conversation. (Teachers are required to report suspected abuse.) I would anyway. I know how much damage words can do to a child.
I would think that most children with vain, self-absorbed celebrity parents would feel inadequate. They need loving attention like everyone else. I guess it depends of how others treat them.
I have just listened to that call on the television. He is totally out of control. There is zero excuse for that kind of tirade launched at a kid. ZERO. What a load of crap ‘you have made me feel like a fool’. He is an adult. She is a child. He’s behaving as though she is an adult - and you know what? That’s a really bad sign. A really bad sign. Apparently the courts had already suspended visitation before this tape was released and they’re speculating that it was him who released the tape to pretend he’s been victimized.
I don’t indulge in name-calling with my children. I would never call one of them a “pig” as Baldwin did, or a “shit,” as another poster mentioned. Both are disrespectful and verbally abusive. I don’t wish for my kids to treat people in that manner; therefore I don’t treat them that way.
If I had an 11-year-old child who received such a message from anyone, even their father, I would be livid. Baldwin was WAY out of line, here.