Whoa Momma! (jailbait alert)

This thread has the potential to turn into another version of this thread.

I’d like to offer this: As long as it’s understood that we are JOKING here (I hope. At least I am), I don’t see a problem with talking about this subject. I mean, it’s one thing to look at an underage girl and say, “Hey, she’s cute”, and another to have a hard drive full of pictures of said girl.

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How about [James Earl Jones voice] I’m going to hit you with a baseball bat, till you go away.[/James Earl Jones voice]

But yeah the pics for her new album are so cute.
Oh and yes Mr. BS we are joking.
Really

I swear

Well, I always told Mrs. Infidel that if she and I were to divorce, that I would go down to the local high school to scout around for prospective wifes.

I saw Charlotte in concert, about a year and a half(two?) ago. She’s got a tremendous sense of humor. They were taping the show, so she came out on stage with a camcorder and set it up to film the camera crew. She had some stuffed animals and stuff that she strew about the stage. Nevermind how beautiful she is (and is she ever!). Her voice alone makes me weep. Angels in Heaven are silent in awe…

heard this in a stand-up show on comedy central (the name of the comic eludes me):

“Of course i want to sleep with teenage girls. That’s why there’s a law!”

saudade - Wait a minute…if I understand correctly, you saw a girl do a dance on the Tonight Show, and now you have feelings about wanting to sleep with her. Or something.

Um…pardon my confusion, but exactly what part of this is illegal? Hey man, if having sexy thoughts about teenagers were a crime…well, I’d have been in big trouble for almost all of high school.
C’mon, people, let’s not throw words around; we’re supposed to be better than that. “Jailbait” indicates a CLEARLY ILLEGAL activity. Not something that “might be” illegal or is “suggestive” or any such garbage.

Someone please fill me in here.

DKW: I think it’s because society’s rules have come into conflict with biological reality, and it’s given everyone a complex. We are so browbeaten with the rules that we feel obligated to feel guilty if we desire something we cannot have, so we do. Or most do, evidently. I think she’s beautiful, and it doesn’t bother me in the least. As long as I follow the rules, I feel under no obligation to agree with them at all. Evidently, I’m sick in the head, or a “pervert,” or something. :rolleyes: I’ll take my “illness” over what passes these days for “health” any day of the week, thank you very much.

And this would be why, exactly? It would seem to me that if you find someone attractive, having a few pics around would kind of be a natural reaction to that. Why would her age have anything to do with it? If I thought Jennifer Love Hewitt was cute and had pics of her on my hard drive it’s okay because she’s an adult, but if I’ve got pics of Charlotte for the same reason it’s NOT okay because she’s NOT an adult? I’m not following that, or else I’m misunderstanding you.

And this would be why, exactly?**
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Ummmmmmmmm. I way I read it he was refering to a different kind of picture. (If you get my drift)

Or maybe more accuratly, just some obsession.

WHAT???

 I did not say a damn thing about sex. Sleeping with some underage girl didn't even cross my mind! You've gotta' believe me! Ya' gots ta'!!!!

I was just expressing shock at how a girl who scarcely a year ago was a mere munchkin is now a voluptuous feminine creature (I mean she really filled up that dress), and I was hoping beyond hope that perhaps she was older than I thought and perhaps it had been a while since I saw her. I used the word “jailbait alert” (perhaps “Lolita” would have been more keeping with the tone of a “Cafe Society” thread) because I figured she was a child after all, and very young, and my lustful eyes should go back to watching VIP and “Son of the Beach” with the sound off instead…which I will do, in lieu of any REAL dating, as yours truly drives an '87 Ford Escort - the most effective contraception a good Catholic like myself can practice.

It’s ok to have sexy thoughts about teenage girls when you are in high school. But not when you are 25…
unless she is really hot.

On the other hand, as Colin Quinn explained on SNL:
“I say, if there’s grass on the field, play ball!”

And this would be why, exactly? It would seem to me that if you find someone attractive, having a few pics around would kind of be a natural reaction to that. Why would her age have anything to do with it? If I thought Jennifer Love Hewitt was cute and had pics of her on my hard drive it’s okay because she’s an adult, but if I’ve got pics of Charlotte for the same reason it’s NOT okay because she’s NOT an adult? I’m not following that, or else I’m misunderstanding you. **
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If you go back to the thread I cited above, you kinda get the idea I was trying to present. I’m not saying you CAN’T have a hard drive full of pictures of underage celebrities (or non-celebrities) if that’s what you want. It just seems a bit…odd. Besides, with the internet, you can look at pictures of these girls all you want anytime you want.

There may come a time when someone else might scan the contents of your computer and not understand your “collection.”
BTW, ElvisL1ves, that was Kid Rock who said that, it was one of the very few times I was entertained by him.

Man, I saw those pictures of Charlotte. I thought she is very well-shaped for a 15-year old. Afterwards I took a long, cold shower.

saudade - Okay…so in other words, you’ve never had the desire to do anything illegal or anything (which, again, is what “jailbait” implies), you just had feelings that you felt were wrong.

Dude…lighten up. This is nothing. Ever hear of an organization called NAMBLA? Now that’s sick.

Personally, I never had any kind of fetish for underage girls. I mean, c’mon…they’re not even developed yet! Isn’t that a rather important aspect of sexual attractiveness?

Just arguing facts here.

Quoting a friend of mine.

:eek:

eek indeed… that statement seems a classic candidate for a “WTH were you thinking” at a later time.

As it is, both Miss Church and Miss Bynes being 15 meet legal requirements in my jurisdiction. Whew…

So, saudade, no foul in liking what you saw. Besides that 15 , delopmentally, IS worlds beyond 12, it’s not like you made a deliberate, willful choice about it. Maybe she just “is realy hot” :smiley: . And at this rate by next time you catch her on the TV her “child” persona will be safe ancient history.

And I once heard a variation on gatopescado’s conversation:

Having participated in the thread in question, I take your point. Sure, to a lot of people, archiving the contents of http://www.lilamber.com seems a bit perplexing; but to a lot of other people (myself included), spending all day in front of the TV watching football seems a bit perplexing. Big sweaty men in tight pants who smash into each other for hours and then go shower together? Please. :rolleyes: :slight_smile: But, if people enjoy it for some reason, I don’t begrudge them their entertainment; I just don’t understand it (don’t get me started on boxing). LilAmber (or Charlotte, or Amanda, or any other “legally off-limits sex-wise” person) I can understand.

Look at it this way: Here in Iowa, we have deer season. From only the Umpteenth of Whatober to the Eleventyfirst of Somethinguary is it is legal to hunt and shoot a deer (can you tell I’m not a hunter? I’ve no idea what the dates are, only that it’s cold out). Despite this very real regulation of the hunting season, there is no limit on when you may enjoy venison, or even consume it; only hunting is regulated. Thus, I may have venison on the list of foods that I like year round, there is no “season” for liking it. Likewise, I may (if I had been prudent and saved some) throw a venison steak on the grill for a 4th of July picnic: no restriction on that, either. Similarly, even though Charlotte & Co. are off-limits from a hunting standpoint (read: actually having sex with them), there is no restriction on finding them appealing (enjoying venison), nor on partaking of them leagally (having a few pics for personal enjoyment). In other words, “Age of Consent” only applies to actually having sex; it passes no judgment on wanting to, or attraction, or the appreciation of beauty, and it shouldn’t. The former is a social issue, but the latter is purely a biological one. You can’t legislate biology, even if you disagree with it.

Everybody is coming in here and snickering and feeling guilty and denying (“I didn’t post this, but…”), and the fact is this is perfectly human. These girls (for the most part, anyway) are reproductively viable females of our species: they are supposed to be attractive. That’s how life works, laws or not. The social condemnation of the recognition of this fact has always alarmed me a bit, as it seems indicative of nothing short of a major brainfart at the very least, and a psychosis at worst. Think about it for a moment: you’re not allowed to find someone attractive unless it’s legal to have sex with them. Does that REALLY make any sense? It’s like saying you’re not allowed to like venison unless it’s deer season. Let’s set the age of consent at 35, and THEN tell me what a pervert you are. Social conditioning, indeed.

Bottom line, we are really talking about attractiveness here; which is an adjunct and an incentive to sexuality; it’s not sexuality in and of itself. Age of consent plays no part here. Quit stressing, folks. You’re okay; just behave yourselves, that’s all.

Oh, yes… and this?

Twelve year olds can have great asses. Just leave 'em be.

And let me tell you how difficult it’s making it for me to get laid. I remember once I went home with a guy, and he casually asked me how old I was. I told him I was 18, which I was. That’s four years older than the age of consent, but he still freaked out.

So I rolled my eyes, and said, “Trust me, I know what I’m doing.”

I just have to ask this:

Doesn’t knowing their age completely erradicate any physical attraction you may feel? I look at the girls linked to in this thread and all I see are attractive kids. Not the slightest stirring in the loins.

If you presented a picture without telling me the age I might see something, but just knowing they are children, even if it isn’t visually obvious, destroys any interest.