Whole House Water Filters - Need Advice

We have really crappy, rusty water. We’ve finally decided to get a whole house filter. We want something under $1000 that has minimal maintenance. Preferably, we’d like to just change filters every so often.

Does anyone out there have something like this? How much time do you spend maintaining it? What’s the cost of upkeep? Was installation difficult?

We have a small house. One bathroom and only two people, and we’re at work all day so our consumption is pretty low.

Thanks for any and all input! (So looking forward to wearing white again!!!)

I have a friend who’s a . . . whatever the word is for chemists who test cities’ water supplies for cleanliness. She once told me, “those water filters they advertise on TV are useless; you’d need one as big as a VW to do any good.” Which it sounds like you’re planning on getting. I can call her for advice, if you like?

I’d love that! This is not just a sink thing for drinking purposes. I need something that will make all my water clear instead of orange (which is what it is). You can’t see it in a glass of water, or even in the toilet. But you can definitely see the color when I fill the tub.

Thanks, dear! I appreciate it.

And I have to scrub everything down with heavy-duty iron-eating chemicals to get it clean. Whites are virtually non-existent in my wardrobe because they turn dingy very quickly.

We have nasty water here in Santa Barbara. It’s very hard and has a lot of chlorine. We got a charcoal filter installed a few years ago and now our tap water tastes as good as bottled. It doesn’t do anything about the hardness though. It’s essentially a very large Britta water filter.

The filter is probably five feet tall and maybe 18 inches in diameter. There is a pre-filter that catches particulates that has to be changed three or four times a year but they’re only like five dollars each.

The system cost a couple thousand dollars and that was like eight years ago so it may be out of your price range. It was definitely worth it for us.

Our filter was from a company called Lifesource.

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How do you know the orange isn’t coming from inside your house? Then a filter at the meter won’t do a thing for you…

Well, we have our own well…the other folks in the immediate vicinity are tapping the same water table and all have the same issues. It’s an old farm house and my husband has been in it for 25 years and has always had the orange water. It smells, too. The bath tub, after one week, looks like one of those movies where they find kids chained to an old tub in the basement of some building that’s been abandoned for decades. The orange ring begins appearing after two baths.

Hmmm… I partially grew up in a house like that. Water tasted horrible, too, and I think the funky smell was sulpher. I was always told that it was because it was a shallow well instead of a deep well.

I see a lot of reverse osmosis systems at Home Depot, but I always hear they waste 2/3 of the filtered water. Have a garden or something you can use that on?

I usually have flowers here and there, but not a full blown garden area. My husband doesn’t want anything that is going to be high maintenance. I can barely get him to change the furnace filters! But this water situation has me worn out. It is a lot of work to clean stuff, especially when you know you’re going to have to do it again in a few days. Or look like you haven’t cleaned the tub in 6 months.

Like you, I have a well, and noticed an orange tinge in the toilet after a few flushes. I picked up a whole house filter (about 6" diameter and 12-16" tall) and installed it along with quarter-turn isolation valves to make filter changes a minimal mess on the main cold line right after the well pressure tank. Although it took a while to flush out the rust that had accumulated in the water lines, there’s no more tinge on plumbing fixtures. I replace the element quarterly, and a twin pack of elements is ~$10, IIRC. The whole deal cost under $100, so you should be finished for under $250 even if you have to pay a plumber to perform the installation.

First, an aside to Eve: water in the NYC area is some of the purest around. That may be why your friend is talking down about household water filters. Outside of NYC, household filters, and water-softening systems can be very effective.

Now, to Kalhoun: First, off, are you talking about getting a filtration system, a water softening system, or a ion-exchange system? These are the three basic household technologies I recall from my time as a travelling water thief. You can get systems that use all three methods, and two pronged approaches are very common.

Each one deals with some of the problems you have through different methods.

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[li]Filtration - basically the water passes through something, anything really, that interrupts the flow of the water and removes solid particles from the water. This will address some of the problem with rust in your water, which is one common source of ground water problems. It does nothing (by itself) for dissolved contaminants, however. The simplest filtration units use a core of basically string through which the water has to pass to do this. And, again, it can get some very good results, but it’s not going to do anything about calcium carbonate - the most common source of ‘hard’ water.[/li][li]Water Softening - this is a particularly odd term, since it implies just the opposite of what it does, IMNSHO. It usually works by adding something to your waterline to neutralize the calcium carbonate that is the biggest factor in forming lime. I can’t recall the exact chemicals used, but I’m sure any company that deals with water softening systems will be able to answer that. It’s another fairly old technology, and works for what it attacks. But leaves the particulate in place in your water, which means it will not do much for taste of your water - but it will leave you, your dishes, and clothes feeling a LOT cleaner.[/li][li]Ion exchange - this is where you pass the water through an artificial plastic ‘sand’ that is covered with a chemical that will exhange either H[sup]+[/sup] ions or OH[sup]-[/sup] ions with the ions in solution. This is a bit more expensive than most solutions, but it’s also very complete about removing dissolved chemicals from your water. It will have the effect of making your water softer by removing the ions that make water hard, and will also act as a filter, just by passing the water through and around the solid beads that the exchange chemical is bonded to. And, with most resins you can ‘recharge’ them simply by passing a commercially available salt solution through the resin housing. [/li][li]finally, the old reliable: Activated charcoal - not quite fish, nor fowl. It still works damned well, and if it’s not as complete as an ion exchange resin for removing objectionable dissolved ions, it’s still very good at it, and because the charcoal is so irregularly shaped, and usually used as part of a filtering system in a two-prong approach, it works very well at both removing ugly stain making solids, too. [/li][/ul]

Personally, unless you’re looking for laboratory grade clean water, or have specific allergy or chemical sensitivity concerns, I’d suggest going with a simple filter with an activated charcoal core. These systems can be installed, as danceswithcats says, very cheaply and easily. If your well water is as bad as your OP implied, you should see some pretty dramatic results with any system you choose, actually.

I have used a prrivate water supply for over 50 years and have had the same problems—rust/calcium deposite… I have had a water softner installed for many years and it will remove rust/and c deposites and soften the water making it pure and soft… The taste will change from bitter to mild ,the feeling will change when wqshing clothing,dishes etc… It is a MUST to remove the deposites and calcium for better water… IT WORKS (for me and has been for a long time)
The softner requires salt pellets to work with an internal filter but there is no taste from the salt… check out!!

I suggest getting a professional water analysis to see what kind of filtration or processing you need. It sounds like Danceswithcats’ situation is quite mild and is handled with the simple paper household filters, but if your problem is more severe, it won’t be enough.

You need to find out if you have sediments, which a physical filter will work on, or disolved chemicals, which a softener might be better for. Or a combination.

Sometimes local governments have departments, like our Soil & Water Dept., that can either test for you or recommend where to go and what a typical treatment is like.

And a comprehensive test will bring to light any real bad stuff, like high lead or ecoli levels, which will need special treatments, not just simple filters.

The house my parents built when I was a kid had a similar problem. My brother bought it a couple of years ago to get it back in the family. The original well was way too shallow and the water was awful. 25 years after original construction, the low Ph had destroyed the copper pipes and the entire plumbing system other than basins and drains had to be replaced: every inch of pipe and every fixture. The previous owner had a new well drilled, this time more than twice as deep. Now the water is marvelous and the pipes are safe. I don’t know who to contact in your state for water table information. Here it is the Department of Environmental Quality.

By the way, I’m not ignoring you–I called my friend, and no one’s picking up her answering machine! Hope she’s alright . . .

You’re correct Musicat, iron was the main problem identified when I ran an analysis prior to going to settlement on the property. My water wasn’t particularly hard, and the test verified that the water was potable. I didn’t bother checking for heavy metals or VOCs because I’m out in the middle of nowhere. That’s why I elected to remediate the iron with the multi-layered string type filter cartridges.

This sounds like what we’re looking for. Can you give me a brand name? Or maybe where you purchased it? I’m not sure if it can handle the evil that is my water supply, but a $100 investment sounds great!

We had our water tested when we refinanced a few years back. It’s potable. Just sucky. We’ve been on bottled water for a few years now. I imagine we’ll continue on it even after the orange water issue is taken care of.

Thanks. I’m going to look at each of these with Mr. K to see what will work best for us. I’m in it for the cosmetic issues more than anything. As I said, all my ageing neighbors are tapping the same water table…and these folks are well into their 90s. I’m not worried about getting sick…just the unsightly rust.