I’m not sure exactly what this means, but it seems you think I believe that “rich people good, poor people bad.” I assure you that that is the farthest thing from the truth.
All I said is that it’s not like it’s possible for someone else to make money if only Pickens would stop taking it all for himself. The world is not a fixed pie that is divvied up among people.
True, but they do often remove the opportunity to make that money. If I take a job, then that is a job that someone else does not have. Of course this gets much more wishy-washy when you get into investments and backing, where i’d imagine a billionaire would likely be plying their trade, and opportunity is no longer a zero-sum game. But still, opportunity isn’t an unlimited resource.
Too, making money doesn’t always mean making value, and by the same token that someone else might not be able to make the money that has been foregone, Pickens might not elect to leverage the money he does make in order to increase its value - too, money might be more valuable to someone with less of it. Really, the only guaranteed benefit I can think of for one over the other would be in your line of work. 
Not too good about paying taxes and he lied about seeing war atrocities so his patriotism is greatly lacking in that department too.
Cites? And hell, he actually went to Vietnam, something lacking in Georgie Boy.
Well, if GWB is the metric by which you wish to measure Kerry, Bush did better in school and got elected to the Presidency twice.
Ask somebody from New Orleans how saved they feel. If there happen to be any in your area.
No actually, I’m sure his first priority was learning the ropes to make sure he could get in line for money from varying lobbyist, just like the other politicians from either party.
Oh, I forgot about that. How Bush summoned the mighty waters to descend on N.O. and how he made sure none of the buses in the evacuation plan were used.
Also, see Post 45.
Ok. So you are suggesting Bush’s lack of involvement after the did not make the situation more complicated, and the fact that the emergency management agency was run by an unqualified peon who got the job because he raised money for Bush, was not the problem?
I was not comparing Bush to Kerry.
You seem quite confused. If his goal was to get in line for money, then getting in an ideologically-driven smack down with a billionaire wasn’t really the way to go.
Do you have an actual point?
Well, unless your interests aren’t aligned with that particular billionaire, in which case getting in an ideologically-driven smack down with that billionaire isn’t likely to cost you much, but is likely to make people who are ideologically aligned more inclined to give, and at the least declares your positions of some points.
What, you think Pickens is the only game in town?
I’m no fan of Bush, and don’t think brownie was the right man for the job. It is an unknown as to what would be different if the right man for the job was in the position.
Sure you were.
Reread the exchange. Why else would you bring up Katrina? This thread has nothing to do with Bush or Katrina. You’re assuming Kerry would have been better than Bush. Even at Katrina. Look at the OP. It’s about Franken, Pickens, and the Swift Boat Vets that saved us from Kerry. so, back to Post 45 I send thee.
There are known unknowns, and there are unknown unknowns, and I think it’s a known known that letting a city flood due to incompetence and then sitting with your thumb up your ass, which is essentially what Bush did, is on the list of great crimes that has happened in the U.S. Not all of the blame is his, I agree. I don’t know what Kerry would have done. But the buck stopped with Bush. (Come to think of it, considering what happened with the economy I think this statement can now be taken literally.) If you’re the president and you can’t do anything for several days while a large city floods, you might as well quit because without that bare minimum of protection, there is essentially no point in having a government at all, particularly one with such an idiot at the top. Unfortunately this is now the primary defense of the Bush years: “Hey, somebody else might have fucked up this badly too!” 
I was pointing out that perhaps not everybody felt “saved” by Pickens. Like people who lost their homes in a flood and then had to rely on Bush’s administration for help.
Okay, this is killing me. Which ‘her’ are you talking about here?
He appears to be saying he voted for Cindy Sheehan when she ran against Pelosi.
Getting back on topic, I’m sorry, but it’s an asshole move by Franken no matter who you voted for in 2004. If he can’t be civil to people who hold opposing points of view, he’s a dick.
I would’ve too. Nancy Pelosi is kind of an useless moron.
Yeah, about that. We know Cheney got him into the Presidency. Who wrote W’s term papers?
There is considerable distance between an honest difference of political opinion and the sort of slime Pickens supported. Democracy has no greater enemies than cynicism and apathy.