Why are butt cleaning toilet attachments not more popular in America/the west?

Thus they will gladly sell you an ambient temperature water tank to make you feel better.

It attaches under the toilet seat - I had to take it off to put it on. There’s a nozzle thinger that is in the middle of the back of bowl. There is a cover over the nozzle, so when you’re not spraying, it’s closed off. A hose connects from the bottom of the toilet tank to the bidet (there’s a splitter so both the wall hose for filling the tank and the hose to the bidet are connected.

There are three settings/angles for the spray - that’s the back setting, and it turns. It has a cleaning mode that sprays down into the bowl, a spray for the front bits and one for the back bits. The front setting is the on/off handle and how you adjust the pressure - that pulls up and down.

It’s February in Kansas City, Missouri. Have you any idea how cold the cold water here is?

Maybe you like spraying your asshole with 40 degree water, but my tastes are a bit more vanilla.

I’m inclined to believe the water temperature doesn’t matter. I actually have sprayed my asshole with water close to freezing temperatures. You really don’t feel it much. At least I don’t, and I suspect it’s true that people in general don’t.

And… I’ve been reading up. There’s good reason to believe that if your hands and face find water cold, your butt won’t. Apparently both face and hands contain higher number of cold receptors than butt.

Let’s put it this way…I’m not going to test the veracity of this claim. You do the experiment and let us know. All I know is that my ass cheeks are sure sensitive to the temperature of the toilet seat, so I don’t have any reason to believe that my actual anus is going to be much less sensitive.

By the way, the OP mentioned “SE Asia, India”. I can easily believe that the tap water in SE Asia and India is going to be a lot closer to 70 degrees.

I think the the responses here and the fight over the correct position for toilet rolls (which happens all over the Internet, not just here) shows this topic has massive inertia and people have strong preferences.

But a good argument for bidets I’ve seen is - if you had shit on your hands, would you be content with just wiping them with paper?

at least once a day. With warm soapy water. I don’t see water alone as being particularly useful and it would be quite unpleasant.

Fighting ignorance since 1973. It’s taking longer than we thought.

To answer the OP-I think that most Americans have not come into contact with them. Many have never seen a bidet and if they stay at a hotel with one don’t really know how to use it. If they encounter one of these devices and don’t know exactly how it works, sometimes it s easier to just not use it. IOW, people have never been exposed to them or instructed in their use so even if they see one they won’t try it so they don’t realize how useful they are. FWIW, when I’m rich I’m getting one of the fancy toilets that even blow dry.

People are having trouble seeing that using water might make you cleaner? Really?

I’ve used Toto Washlets and love them, and want to own one. I just question the utility of a hose hooked up to the cold water feed.

Most of the time, yes, but winters in North India go down to freezing. And pulykamell uses non heated water in Chicago. Chicago not cold enough either?

Depends on the height of the building. My Kansas City apartment is in the basement, and the cold water can be used to make ice. My Chicago apartment is on the second floor, but is still far too cold to ever even consider squirting on my anus.

I think the inertia is possibly, as other posters have pointed out, quite possibly due to the difficulty in trying it out, not so much the strong preferences. Because people who do manage to try don’t seem to mind switching.

The attribution to cold water is one I’m finding hard to come to terms with, but I suppose preferences are subjective. I’m still reluctant to give it much weight because everybody who has raised that objection has only done so in the hypothetical.

Yeah that sounds right.

yes, without soap I have trouble seeing the value of it. I could just as easily pour water and soap on toilet paper from the sink and do a better job.

Yes. Wetting something doesn’t make it clean; just makes it wet. Feces is already wet, a big percentage of it is water already. The question above asks what I’d do if I got shit on my hands. Answer: scrub for several minutes with soap under near-scalding water. That would make a difference. I know what I wouldn’t do: put some cold water on it and dry it off.

I actually wish I had a bidet next to my toilet. I’d make use of it often, But I wouldn’t bother using it unless I used soap.

I’m now thinking the inertia is possibly, as other posters have pointed out, due to the difficulty in trying it out, not so much the strong preferences. Because people who do manage to try don’t seem to mind switching.

The attribution to cold water is one I’m finding hard to come to terms with, but I suppose preferences are subjective. I’m still reluctant to give it much weight because everybody who has raised that objection has only done so in the hypothetical.

Yeah that sounds right.

You’re using the wrong alternatives. Rank the following in preference if you get shit on your hands

  1. Use soap and warm water to clean thoroughly, dry/wipe with tissue paper
  2. Use soap and cold water to clean thoroughly, dry/wipe with tissue paper
  3. Use cold water to rinse thoroughly, dry/wipe with tissue paper
  4. Wipe with tissue paper

Are 3 and 4 equivalent for you?

Just about, yeah. I took a shit at Target two weeks ago. Afterwards I discovered they didn’t have any soap in the dispenser. I didn’t wash my hands. Why bother with the water at all?

Of course this is all a hypothetical since asses and hands can’t be compared in human life. I don’t shake other peoples’ asses, don’t eat with my ass, don’t type with my ass, nor touch my ass to my face when I’m thinking. So I just don’t worry about ass cleanliness as much as hands. I couldn’t rest if I had shit on my hands until they were scrubbed clean. Paper is good enough for my ass which is buried up under my cheeks and hidden behind layers of clothing.

BTW, I actually like the idea of ass washing devices, but not mere water sprayers. And I’d never use anything that is shared amoungst the public.

Sometimes I eat with my fingers. I don’t have a prehensile asshole, so I never touch food with it. Therefore my expectation for hand cleanliness is much higher than asshole cleanliness.