OK so it’s a dumb question. But I just started thinking, there are wild horses, goats, dogs, cats, i think there are wild pigs, just about wild everything. But no wild cows. How did every cow in existance come to be a domestic cow. (NO jokes, please). Are there wild cows and I just not know about them? If a wild cow moo’s and there’s no one there to hear it…?
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Seeing as they can breed with cows, I think the bison would qualify as a wild cow. One of the novelty events at many rodeos is “wild cow milking”. I don’t know where these wild cows come from though.
Let us begin by differentiating between feral and wild animals. Feral animals are those animals (and their descendants) that have reverted to an ownerless existence. Wild animals are those that have no domestic lineage. Thus, to pick a critter that is a Straight Dope® favorite, the common city pigeon (a/k/a "flying rat) is a feral animal, being descended from escaped domestic pigeon. The rock dove, OTOH, considered the wild progenitor of the pigeon, is deemed in danger of having its gene pool swamped by its feral cousins.
Now, what of the wild cow? Well, it’s extinct, probably due to a combination of hunting and habitat destruction. Without living specimens for DNA comparison, etc., we cannot be 100% certain, but the overwhelming probability is the wild ancestor of domestic cattle was the aurochs (“ur”, or “original ox”), formerly abundant in the Middle East and Eastern Europe.
I’ve seen various representations and reconstructions of these brutes, and, believe me, they would not have been on my list of the Top One Thousand Animals to Domesticate. I suppose that most people would find watching over the herds of dormice inexcusably wimpy, though.
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While there are no wild cows per se (cows have been too long domesticated to resemble their forefathers), there are wild bovines. Water buffalo, bison, yaks, and I’m sure others I’m forgetting are all cousins to the milk giving moo-cow.
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Actually we did this a couple of months ago. I’ll try to dig up the thread. Meanwhile, off the top of my head Saudi Arabia and some African countries claim they have wild cows but I think “feral” is a more exact translation.
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You’re not paranoid. The forum search is buggy for everyone.
As Akatsukami wrote, the wild ancestors of domestic cows were aurochs, which were once common in Europe and Central Asia. Genuine aurochs are now extinct (the last known ones lived in a Polish forest in the 16th century). However, some breeders have “recreated” aurochs by selectively breeding domestic cows for auroch-like traits. But without the genuine article to compare it to, no one knows how accurate a reproduction these animals are.
“Go to some places in India and you’ll see cows running around town like stray cats, getting fed everywhere they go. No ‘owners’, no manners either.”
I know I’m hijacking the thread, but this reminds me of something I read the other day on a railway-accidents website. The author claimed that the Hindu religion so reveres, and abhors injury to, cows that once a Hindu engineer, faced with a cow standing on the tracks as his passenger train came around a blind turn at a good speed, applied the brakes full power (knowing the train would likely derail at that speed on a curve) rather than “risk the bad karma” (as the author put it) of hitting the cow.
That story just sounds ever so fishy to me, on so many levels! Does anyone here know what the Hindu belief or doctrine really is on a situation where one has to choose between a cow’s life and the lives of one or more people?
Don’t worry about it psycat, as AWB II said the forum search has been toast for almost as long as I’ve been here.
The previously mentioned site has close to a thousand breeds of cows listed. They can pretty much breed for any trait they want yet my guess is that none are exactly the same as the historic auroch. There just seems like there are to many variables to put them all back together properly. But say you had some frozen DNA in the alps…
You can breed for docility, or lack thereof, just like any other trait. In fact sometimes I believe my father aims for it just to bug me, or maybe just to keep me on my toes. Some breeders make big money just for breeding rodeo animals, though the big money is for bull riding steers.