Why can't there be a "Sports and Games" forum?

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There has been a lot of confusion over where to put sports/game threads lately. And a recent thread about “what would make the SDMB better” offered rousing support for a Sports and Games forum.

Why would it be considered such a problem to create one?

Sports, games and video games don’t really fit in Cafe Society. But they fit in a very narrow category that doesn’t really work with IMHO or MPSIMS either.

And what would the users of the SDMB have to do to show that a Sports and Games forum is needed?

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*I would just like to add to the mods and admins: *

Please consider this, it is a great idea. I think sports fans & gamers would both greatly appreciate it and I suspect the anti-sports fans will be happy to see us out of Café.

There is enough sports and game threads to justify it, it would relieve Café & MPSIMS (actual game threads) which are the two busiest forums.

Jim

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I don’t think the volume of sports thread is enough to warrant its own thread, but I do wish they would stay in one spot. Personally I think CS is the right place, since sports is primarily entertainment. But I wish it were more consistently applied.

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[QUOTE=Skammer]
I don’t think the volume of sports thread is enough to warrant its own thread, but I do wish they would stay in one spot. Personally I think CS is the right place, since sports is primarily entertainment. But I wish it were more consistently applied.
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Not just sports, the idea seems to be Sports & Game subjects and Game threads. There was a rash of Game thread closures in MPSIMS a few months back when a mod just got tired of having too many active game threads. They tend to be high on activity and he decided to weed them out to leave room for other MPSIMS threads.

Jim

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[QUOTE=Skammer]
I don’t think the volume of sports thread is enough to warrant its own thread…
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I disagree. I’d spend plenty of time in such a forum. I think it’s time.

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For what it’s worth, I’d like to chime in with additional support for this idea. It would simplify matters considerably to have a single, unified place to mock the Steinbrenner family.

(sorry Jim, but all sports-related posts must contain at least one jab at Steinbrenner. I think it’s a rule).

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Are we voting? I vote yea on the proposal.

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]
Not just sports, the idea seems to be Sports & Game subjects and Game threads. There was a rash of Game thread closures in MPSIMS a few months back when a mod just got tired of having too many active game threads.
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By “game threads”, do you mean “Insult the next poster!” type threads? If so, I’m not sure in which way they belong in the same (subject-oriented) forum as sports-related threads. Even if you mean threads dealing with game topics, it’d still be weird to see threads about the World Series and threads about good ideas for a game of D&D in the same forum (that isn’t Café Society).

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[QUOTE=storyteller0910]
For what it’s worth, I’d like to chime in with additional support for this idea. It would simplify matters considerably to have a single, unified place to mock the Steinbrenner family.

(sorry Jim, but all sports-related posts must contain at least one jab at Steinbrenner. I think it’s a rule).
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I am not a huge fan either, its okay. I am rather ambivalent about them. George did fire Yogi and made a mockery out of Billy.

[QUOTE=severus]
By “game threads”, do you mean “Insult the next poster!” type threads? If so, I’m not sure in which way they belong in the same (subject-oriented) forum as sports-related threads. Even if you mean threads dealing with game topics, it’d still be weird to see threads about the World Series and threads about good ideas for a game of D&D in the same forum (that isn’t Café Society).
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Thank was what **Frank ** hinted at several months ago, I don’t think it is as much about then fitting together, as they don’t fit in Café or MPSIMS.

Jim

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I wouldn’t think game threads like “insult the next poster” would really fit in a Sports and Games forum (I think of those more as “joke threads”), but the various Mafia game threads would make sense there.

And I did a little looking, here’s a list of threads on the the first page of Cafe Society and IMHO that would fit in a Sports and Games forum:

Cafe Society
Video games that would NEVER see the light of day
The Major League Baseball Playoff and Predictions Thread
Why hate the Dallas Cowboys so much?
Does Hellgate:London get better?
Anybody else playing Dungeon Runners
Sports- How many drug cheats/ How much corruption before you would boycott a sport?
Absolute Poker scandal

IMHO
Can I find a decent game box for under $1000?
Your oldest game/app you can still extract a 3D model from?

Sure there’s not a lot, but all of these threads have gotten some pretty hefty responses.

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We really need this, Admins. Combine “Comments on Cecil’s Column” and “Comments on Staff Reports” while you’re at it.

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Well, combining the “Comments on Cecil’s Columns” and “Comments on Staff Reports” seems unlikely, since Cecil Himself sometimes reads the CoCC and wants the process to be as simple as possible. Having to comb through CoSR would be tedious for him. He doesn’t do this often, but when he does, we want it to be simple and fun to encourage him.

The Sports and Gaming forum seems like not a bad idea. We’ll discuss.

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[QUOTE=C K Dexter Haven]
Well, combining the “Comments on Cecil’s Columns” and “Comments on Staff Reports” seems unlikely, since Cecil Himself sometimes reads the CoCC and wants the process to be as simple as possible. Having to comb through CoSR would be tedious for him. He doesn’t do this often, but when he does, we want it to be simple and fun to encourage him.

The Sports and Gaming forum seems like not a bad idea. We’ll discuss.
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Hooray. Thanks.

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[QUOTE=C K Dexter Haven]
The Sports and Gaming forum seems like not a bad idea. We’ll discuss.
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Woo to this!

[QUOTE=C K Dexter Haven]
Well, combining the “Comments on Cecil’s Columns” and “Comments on Staff Reports” seems unlikely, since Cecil Himself sometimes reads the CoCC and wants the process to be as simple as possible. Having to comb through CoSR would be tedious for him. He doesn’t do this often, but when he does, we want it to be simple and fun to encourage him.
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But a big :confused: to this.

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[QUOTE=Justin_Bailey]
But a big :confused: to this.
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silenus suggested combining the Comments on Staff Reports forum with Comments on Cecil’s Columns. No need to and apparently **Cecil ** would not approve.

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[QUOTE=Justin_Bailey]
I wouldn’t think game threads like “insult the next poster” would really fit in a Sports and Games forum (I think of those more as “joke threads”), but the various Mafia game threads would make sense there.

And I did a little looking, here’s a list of threads on the the first page of Cafe Society and IMHO that would fit in a Sports and Games forum:

Cafe Society
Video games that would NEVER see the light of day
The Major League Baseball Playoff and Predictions Thread
Why hate the Dallas Cowboys so much?
Does Hellgate:London get better?
Anybody else playing Dungeon Runners
Sports- How many drug cheats/ How much corruption before you would boycott a sport?
Absolute Poker scandal

IMHO
Can I find a decent game box for under $1000?
Your oldest game/app you can still extract a 3D model from?

Sure there’s not a lot, but all of these threads have gotten some pretty hefty responses.
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Here are some more recent “sports & games” related threads (search “football” for one month), some of which are “ongoing” or “recurring” for quite some time.

CS
NFL Week 7 discussion
The 0-16 NFL Season Thread, 2007 Edition
Which is a better sports city, Pittsburgh or Philadelphia?
Kentucky beats LSU!!!
Who Should Replace Steve McLaren as England Manager?
Adrian Peterson: best in the NFL already?
Please explain the QB rating
NY Giants really don’t stink, who’d have thought that after week 2?
NFL Week 6
Do you think it was a mistake to move Penn State into the Big Ten?
NFL week 5 (Plus: Icing the kicker)
NFL analysts are all hindsight and contradictory
Stanford covers the Spread (41 points!)
Best Damn Sports Books Period
Rockies win in the best game in a long time.
Duplicate poker?
X Box Madden ‘08 Question
MLB Pennant Races or This has turned into an interesting September.
With the Mets’ loss and the Philly’s win, we are on the cusp of a historic collapse.
Team Wins Important Game On the Road; Fans Congregate at Home Stadium
NFL Chronic underachievers - Why?
Most talented, stupid athletes?
Rugby, Cricket,Tennis, Soccer etc

MPSIMS
Womens Football (Soccer) World Cup
SDMB All-Pro Fantasy Football League
Local boy becomes baseball hero for the night!
SDMB Auction fantasy football league
SDMB NFL Pick 'em and Survival leagues
The First Annual Mike Tomlin Marches the Steelers to the Super Bowl Thread
SDMB Salary Cap Fantasy Football (different from regular FF)
SDMB Fantasy Basketball, 2007-2008
He Hate Me So Bad FF keeper league
A great weekend to be a Boston sports fan…
The proper way to beat your wife
EA Sports – garbage?
Tell me about Cheerleaders

Pit
I’m so tired of stupid sportswriter condescension. (Indians, Red Sox)
England (rugby)
Joe Torre, you’re a pathetic douchebag you are
Chicago Marathon runners = morons.
Wisden’s just announced…Ricky Ponting’s the biggest wanker to have played the game
Suck it Buffalo Bills coach!!!
I pit you, US womens soccer goalkeeper!

GQ
How do baseball statistics work on TV?
Another baseball question
Hosed my fantasy football leagues schedule. How to fix?
What is a “go-ahead” touchdown?
How are pro athletes paid?
NFL Replay Rules
NFL green dot???
Britain and betting: why so big?
LSU Fake Field Goal: Legal?

IMHO
NFL week 6 predictions/discussion thread
Best examples of Rules Lawyering?
Advice on indoor vs. outdoor soccer
Define America’s “Blood Sport”
NFL Discussion, week 4
NFL Predictions Week 4

I’m pretty sure if I searched “baseball” and “basketball” and “soccer” and “boxing” and “sports” etc. I would find more.

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]
silenus suggested combining the Comments on Staff Reports forum with Comments on Cecil’s Columns. No need to and apparently **Cecil ** would not approve.
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It’s cute and all that people like to pretend Cecil’s a real person, but he’s not and it’s weird seeing him referred that way by the powers that be.

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[QUOTE=Justin_Bailey]
It’s cute and all that people like to pretend Cecil’s a real person, but he’s not and it’s weird seeing him referred that way by the powers that be.
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Yes, but CK is one of those charged with keeping up appearances. :wink:

**Bearflag70 ** good summary.

Jim

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I’m starting to think sports & games should be part of Cafe Society. They are forms of entertainment, like movies & books. I wouldn’t want to see too many “subject based” forums. If we give sports its own spot, then why not give “religion” its own spot, and “politics” and “telemarketers,” etc.?

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[QUOTE=Bearflag70]
I’m starting to think sports & games should be part of Cafe Society. They are forms of entertainment, like movies & books. I wouldn’t want to see too many “subject based” forums. If we give sports its own spot, then why not give “religion” its own spot, and “politics” and “telemarketers,” etc.?
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Then, at the very least, the forum descriptions should be rewritten so there’s no mistaking where a sports or gaming thread should go.

And the mods should be ready with warnings for the “you like sports?” threadshitters.