why is it that jays and cigs are hit differently? what is it about everybody’s favorite cancer causing smoke stick smoke that doesn’t allow for smooth continuous inhalation? and please don’t tell me that it’s because the ganj smoke is ‘less irritating’. duh.
why is cigarette smoke more irritating?
The way I learned it, cigarette smoke goes all the way to the aveoli in the lungs, whereas pot smoke likes to lay down on the bronchial tubes, well before it gets to the delicate inner workings of the lungs. That’s not much of an answer, but I think you will find it to be one of the cornerstones of the solution.
but the most unpleasant sensation occurs in the back of the throat, a stingy/burny sicky feeling.
i think what you have described is as a result of differences in inhaling, not the smoke itself.
and i am not duly impressed by the truth of your explanation (not calling you a liar, just the person who told you, or the person who told them, etc etc)
but thanks for the answer.
jb
Just a WAG, but I expect that the answer lies in the direction of the fact that that you never hear anyone say that they “took a big ol’ hit off of that Marlboro and got wasted!”
Cigarette smoking is a secondary thing. You do it while you’re doing other things or during a quick break, and the effect is a milder, long term thing. You smoke grass to get high right away, so you want to hold the smoke in as long as possible.
Now, toking on a smoke will Jack your lungs up well. I’d imagine it’s really the harshness of the cigarette smoke coming out.
Slow, controlled draw in-- Nice, soothing, cooled smoke to lungs
Quick, rapid draw in-- The smoke hits the back of your throat, uncooled, and possibly hits that spot in the back of your throat where smoke normally doesn’t hit.
Also, from memory, the little sinus holes in the roof of your mouth, near your Uvula also get quite bothered by it.
P.S- You MAY do bongloads with a smoke stuck in the stem, but if you try bongloads of pipe tobacco(used to have a goofy friend who dug it), you will get much the same effect.
-Sam
Having contemplated the issue over a smokebreak, I have another plausible, yet WAG.
as you are smoking, normally, you mix the noxiousness of a cigarette with rich, pure, clean(maybe), air. As you dilute the smoke, it reduces the level of irritation caused by pure tobacco smoke.
By toking on a smoke, you’re not letting the smoke cool, nor are you mixing the nastiness you inhale dilute itself. Therefore, the more sensitive parts of you mouth and respiratory system get terribly irritated, and cause you to look like a dweeb when performing this trick at a party, whilst choking, and hacking and your eyes begin to water uncontrollably:D
Make sense?
-Sam
just found this one while idly searching for threads w/ ‘bong’ in them. Still haven’t gotten an answer as to why.
To clear up- a doob can be steadily hit, with the smoke going right into the lungs on a long slow draw. A cigarette must be pre-inhaled, held in the mouth for a sec, then shotgunned down into the lungs.
When I have tried to toke a smoke, my throat and lungs got trashed. Why?
What is the difference between mj and tobacco that makes their smokes so different? Is it the nic itself, different tars, or what?
peace out,
jb
For the past 2-3 years, I have been “toking” cigs (with the smoke going right into the lungs on a long slow draw). I never quite close my lips around the edge of the cig, so “fresh, cool” air is inhaled along with the hot smoke. My smoking friends are always giving me s**t for this… 
I think this began several years ago when I was sick. I had the common cold which turned into a nasty smokers cough. My throat was so trashed, I stopped smoking for about 3 days. When I got better and resumed smoking, I could no longer smoke normally. I would draw the smoke into my mouth then “shotgun” it into my lungs. Once I began using my “open mouth” method (which hurt less), I never went back.
I am sampling both now…
<cough>
Admittedly, I am hitting a pipe not a joint but I must tell you that when comparing both methods, inhaling a cigarette deeply into the lungs hurts like hell.
My personal perspective on this matter is that cigarettes burn much more efficiently than any form of marijuana and the sheer volume of uncooled tobacco smoke is painful. Smaller amounts of marijuana smoke and the overwhelming desire to fill their lungs cause potheads to suck like a Hoover upon their chosen paraphernalia.
What was I just talking about??? <giggle>
Happy to be a guinea pig,
IBBen
P.S. Oh yeah… Drugs are Bad N’kay?
dude, if only you had posted one minute later…
jb,
who smoked with hs bro half-hour ago
do tobacco and weed burn at the same temp?
If memory serves, your average joint is narrower at the end than a cigarette, so you’re automatically drawing in more air with the smoke. 'Course, I was notorious for my “pregnant” joints.
When smoking a,um, more expertly rolled joint, I would always suck in a good mouthful of kind smoke, remove the joint from my lips, then breathe in air to carry the smoke down into my lungs.
I’ve never been a cigarette smoker, so I don’t know what the basic technique for tobacco smoking is.
Ever tried a blunt (or sweet). Weed packed inside a hollowed-out cigar. Tried it once. Not being a tobacco smoker, I gagged, choked, and coughed. It was about the roughest thing I ever have done to my throat. But the people in the circle, mostly late teens-early 20’s, were toking weth ease.
Yeah yeah philly blunts! That’s the thing, too- I hit an L like a jay, and it’s burns the shit out of my throat and lungs (but so does anormal cigarette if hit like that).
btw- are sweets swisher sweets?
jb
:)~
We should get together a real DopeFest. Y’know, all the east coasters try to hit one at 4:20, throw a coupla posts at each other. The thread could go from time zone to time zone!
jb,
like one needs an excuse to smoke
Very few people smoke enough weed to get lung cancer. Many people smoke a pack a day. Do you have any idea how much weed that would be? Most dopefiends don’t smoke that much in a week!
wuh?!?
jb
I think it’s pretty well the same thing with Smokes and Blunts as it is with a Tobacco Pipe and a Hash Pipe
I smoke a pipe (not that i dont smoke other things), and little pisses me off more then when someone (usually someone i know) asks for a “hoot”. It’s just not bloody right. In fact, just out of spite, once a kid who looked to be about grade 9 came up to me while i was having a pipe down town.
“Hey, can i get a hoot offa that, man” he said. “Sure, what the hell” said I “go to it. This stuff’s imported from Holland” It was Dutch tobacco after all, Amphora Full Aroma.
I thought he was going to die coughing, but he did seem to think he was baked, so we were both happy.
Upham
I seem to recall finding out somewhere that your typical pack of cigarettes has .75 oz. of tobacco, but now that I think about that I’m not sure that’s quite right…I’ll have to dig out my scales and borrow one of my wife’s packs of cigarettes. If someone else is at home and has scales and cigarettes, weigh a full pack, then subtract the weight of an empty pack and 20 X the weight of a cigarette butt.
.75 oz. is a LOT of weed to smoke in one day. These days that would last me a couple of weeks at least, though for a while I was smoking about that much in one week…