Why couldnt classic tv shows have had more black characters?

Julia ran from 1968-1971. It starred Diane Carroll as a widowed nurse raising a young son. Quite ground breaking at the time.

I don’t think I ever watched that. Maybe the networks didn’t carry it in upstate NY, the Albany-Schenectady-Troy Tri-City area.

I was going to college up here back then, and AFAIK, it was being carried. It was aired on NBC, which would have been channel 6 back then. But it was also opposite Red Skelton and It Takes a Thief; it’s possible that you were just watching the more established shows back then.

MAD Magazine did a hilarious satire of it (“Jewelia”) that Diahann Carroll loved.

I dunno, even today plenty of performers still use stage names. Ethnicity isn’t the only reason to change your name.

I mean Moses’s bros Jerome and Samuel would still have not gone by those names, I’m sure.

It has been done and is still done so much that the default assumption is that an actor is not using their original name.

Yeah, probably what happened, thanks.

My Dad taught at RPI. Back then I was matriculating from Latham Ridge Elementary. :smiley:

I did say “might” :stuck_out_tongue:

Mannix had a secretary that was black. She often had several important lines every show. Quite feisty and helped Mannix with cases. Played by Gail Fisher. She won an Emmy in the role.

Mannix and Star Trek were my two favorite childhood shows that featured black characters in non stereotypical roles.

I did see one of them where Kinch did an impersonation of Col. Klink. It was one of the funniest scenes I have ever seen.

His replacement, Sgt. Washington (?) was about the biggest limp washrag on TV.

She was smoking hot, IIRC. Didn’t she and Mannix have a kissing scene, once?

IIRC, the demographics were different back then, and there wasn’t a need to make a change.
And, IIRC, the “Little Rascals” didn’t exactly put the minorities in the primo roles.
For a southern show, the Andy Griffith thing wouldn’t really be the best showcase for integration: the blacks in the South weren’t on as good terms as you would have them be, and anything to indicate that the characters were BFF, or, for that matter, anything other than a service connection, would be more ridiculous than even some of Gomer’s antics.

Talking about “hateful” network executives, it’s worth remembering that at least Grant Tinker, Mort Werner, Jerry Stanley, et al. at NBC in the mid-sixties were circulating memos encouraging producers to cast more minorities in their series. A copy of one such memo delivered to Gene Roddenberry was reproduced in Inside Star Trek: The Real Story by Herb Solow and Bob Justman.

That’s hardly changed. Ask Best Actress Oscar winner Neta-Lee Hershlag.

The plain answer is because the past is the past and not the present. That’s how it was back then. If the networks had put in too many black characters they would have lost much of their audience in the South.

And, I dare say, in the North and West as well. Sad but true. :frowning:

I doubt she changed her name for purposes of hiding her ethnicity and more for holy crap that’s just an unappealing sounding last name.

As opposed to now? :confused:

There was an episode of The Courtship of Eddie’s Father that is relevant to this discussion. Eddie’s father (Bill Bixby) was a widower raising a son on his own. Eddie had a classmate whose mother (Cicely Tyson) was widowed so he sets them up on a blind date. The twist: the mother is black! After the initial awkwardness, they have a great time mostly by bonding over the difficulty of being a single parent. Despite how well they got along, there was no question whatsoever that that would be their one and only “date”.

Something similar happened on Lou Grant. Rossi hooked up with a pretty black woman, but it was pretty clear they would never be anything more than “just good friends.”