Interesting. How do they see it after the drugs wear off?
I’m as about as right wing as they come. I don’t actively listen to Rush or any AM radio for that matter, but I have in the past and have read the books. I have a whole shelf of books that would prove me a member of the “vast right wing conspiracy” in good standing.
Having said that, I’m definitely voting for McCain. Not just in a johnny-come-lately manner, but even when he was written off last fall, I was planning on voting for McCain (assuming he was still in the race). I don;t agree with him on all issues (McCain-Feingold for one), but I see him as a good solid conservative.
I, too, do not understand the opposition to him from the Right. These people mean to tell me that they support that slime-ball Romney? Who just a couple of years ago was pro-choice and pro gun-control? On issues such as these, how do you just flip a switch according to what election is on hand?
So, yes, here is one “very conservative” who polls for McCain. Rush et al can suck it.
Get yer eyes tested.
Really, just what is he solidly conservative about?
And I mean standing alone, not compared to anyone else. I also am not voting for Romney nor Huckabee.
Could you name some prominent pols you consider “solidly conservative”?
There is a lot of going back and forth in this thread but the answer is simple. McCain isn’t very conservative. He seems more willing to “reach across the aisle” than his is to reach out to his own party. He has thought about leaving the party on at least two occasions and now wishes to be the leader of the party. The idea of a Kerry/McCain ticket was bounced around four years ago. He is mouthing a lot of the conservative ideas now but his record goes against that. He has been on the wrong side of taxes and immigration to name just two of the biggest issues. As to the talk show hosts mentioned, I think they reluctantly went with Romney. On paper Thompson was the candidate for them.
You may think their point of view is incorrect, but it’s still their point of view.
Yes, I can. Some national, a few local (yet prominent). While nobody is 100%, there are those far more to the right of J.M…
But why get into that? This thread is about why we dislike McCain, not lets compare him to others.
John McCain has enjoyed his “maverick” status for years. But his positions will bite him in his old wrinkled ass.
Conservatives are not going to shut up and go along just to get along, and he is going to fail trying to make any bridges with conservatives. On election day he will not have our vote.
Once he’s nominated the media will turn on him and either Hillary or Obama will beat McCain like a drum. And while I detest most of their stances on issues, we will be no worse off having one of them as President than we would with J.M.
A John McCain Presidency will mark the end of the conservative movement for a very long time. McCain losing big may actually save it!
Hmmmmmmmm . . .
Tucker Carlson nailed it tonight. This is all about power. Limbaugh and Hannity have no “in” with McCain.
Originally Posted by pkbites
A John McCain Presidency will mark the end of the conservative movement for a very long time.
I knew you’d be dumbfounded. It’s a horrifying thought, isn’t it.
Rubbish. Limbaugh railed on McCain many years ago.
A McCain nomination = Dole II
Crusty, old, dawdling war-hero vs. a former 1st lady or an inspirational ‘movement candidate’. A guaranteed Democrat landslide, with McCain barely getting the 159 electoral votes Dole did 12 years ago.
Well, here’s the thing.
If McCain is such a horrible, horrible candidate, why is he winning all the Republican primaries?
Fact is, the Republicans are screwed this year. McCain didn’t screw the Republicans. McCain is simply picking up the charred rubble of a party that some other people tore apart. And who are those people? You know who they are, I know who they are, the American people know who they are.
Blaming McCain for destroying the conservative movement is simply laughable.
Lieberman is gay for the war? In public? Talk about crossing the aisles …
I still don’t understand why Hillary can do the same thing (e.g. Kyle-Lieberman) and not be hated by the Left, but anyway…
I haven’t really followed McCain’s career. Are these based on statements made by McCain, and not just accusations by Limbaugh et al.?
I agree. And Dole didn’t piss off the conservative right like McCain does.
Several reasons. Muliple candidates remaining late in the primaries (all hugely flawed from a conservative point of view) open primary states, etc…
So all the Republican candidates are hugely flawed from a conservative point of view.
Why do you imagine that happened? Did McCain force them to run? Did McCain prevent acceptable candidates from running? Where did all the acceptable conservative candidates go? Did McCain write the open primary rules? And are all those McCain voters really liberal spoilers?
So tell me, why is the Republican party in such a festering shithole right now? Who put the Republican party in there? Was it John McCain, or someone else?
I don’t think that there is a political test per se, but there surely is a Darwinian process within the profession, whereupon you only get printed if you can get approval for your article. That mitigates against any opinion that may offend a biased editor, publisher, corporate management, etc.
That said, the newspapers also have to sell copies in order to attract advertisers, and they have to appeal to a broad range of people, from the “elites” to the lowest common denominator. Since the “elites” don’t particularly care whether they are hated, newspapers pander to the low and middle-class (which is why they write at a 6th-grade level). Do that long enough and everything you say will be skewed toward your readers, and since they look upon businesses with suspicion, as gougers and chiselers always looking to make a buck at their expense, you will naturally adjust to the so-called “liberal” mindset. Multiply that by thousands (sometimes millions) of readers in thousands of towns and you have the overall perception of bias.
It’s a chicken-egg thing. Do newspapers make people liberal, or do people make newspapers liberal? I don’t know where it started, but there is undoubtedly a considerable feedback loop that perpetuates the current state of affairs.
One of the problems is the wrong people ran. Why, I know not.
The only one I find marginally acceptable (Fred Thompson) ran a miserable campaign.
There are some great conservatives that are up and coming that I’d keep an eye on for the future. Wisconsins Paul Ryan is one.
Is it true that Glen Beck actually hung up on Mike Huckabee during an interview on his radio show today? If true, that is just crazy.