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[Paul Harvey]…and that’s… the rest of the story…[/Paul Harvey]
I haven’t read the book yet, so I don’t know that she mentions any of this in the book.
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Well, I’ll post once I get thru the book.
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[Paul Harvey]…and that’s… the rest of the story…[/Paul Harvey]
I haven’t read the book yet, so I don’t know that she mentions any of this in the book.
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Well, I’ll post once I get thru the book.
When I was blue water diving at UCSB sharks were always a consideration. One of my colleagues painted MASSIVE eyespots on her fins, working on the theory that if it worked to deter predators from moths, it might work for her.
AND
she was never eaten.
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ETA: I hear Devil’s Teeth is a good book, but sometime ask me about the effect that it had on shark research - which wasn’t entirely good.
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It’s an awesome book – it almost reads (or sounds, in my case, since I listened to the audiobook version, but then bought the hardback later for the pictures in the middle) like a suspense novel or a thriller in some places – but I wondered if it got those poor Farallon researchers in even more trouble than she mentions in the book.
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I haven’t read the book yet, so I don’t know that she mentions any of this in the book.
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She goes into great detail in the book. I’ll spoiler it for those who haven’t read it and want to find this out later.
It wasn’t that she had been staying on the island all along, according to her – the two shark researchers you mentioned bravely rescued her from a particularly fierce storm one night and it turned out to be a good thing, because when they got up in the morning the ropes mooring her boat had snapped and the boat was long gone.
But they still got in trouble for it … and I don’t know if her version is 100% truthful. If it happened the way she (and the researchers) say it did, though, it doesn’t sound like they had much choice in how they acted.
For those who are interested, PBS’s Jonathan Bird’s Blue World will feature GWSs in its first August broadcast. Check your local listings; in NE Ohio, it’s on WVIZ Channel 25 at 7:30pm Sun. Aug. 3.
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For those who are interested, PBS’s Jonathan Bird’s Blue World will feature GWSs in its first August broadcast. Check your local listings; in NE Ohio, it’s on WVIZ Channel 25 at 7:30pm Sun. Aug. 3.
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I get it in Connecticut from WGBH Boston…channel…not sure, 19 maybe.
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She goes into great detail in the book. I’ll spoiler it for those who haven’t read it and want to find this out later.
It wasn’t that she had been staying on the island all along, according to her – the two shark researchers you mentioned bravely rescued her from a particularly fierce storm one night and it turned out to be a good thing, because when they got up in the morning the ropes mooring her boat had snapped and the boat was long gone.
But they still got in trouble for it … and I don’t know if her version is 100% truthful. If it happened the way she (and the researchers) say it did, though, it doesn’t sound like they had much choice in how they acted.
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So that’s what she said. I have to admit to being very skeptical…
[spoiler]Her story doesn’t explain why:
Ah well, it wouldn’t really be a book about sharks if it didn’t have a tall sea tale in it, would it? ![]()
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So that’s what she said. I have to admit to being very skeptical…
[spoiler]Her story doesn’t explain why:
Ah well, it wouldn’t really be a book about sharks if it didn’t have a tall sea tale in it, would it? ![]()
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I’m not sure about your first point, since it’s been so long since I read the book. As far as the second point goes:
They had no idea the sailboat was gone until the morning, when the storm was over and they woke up. It was still moored the night before, when they rescued her.
Again, I don’t know if she’s telling the truth or not, and it’s been so long since I read the book that I can’t remember everything about it (I just looked for my copy but couldn’t find it at the moment, alas), but if what I remember is accurate and her account is accurate, it didn’t seem like she or the researchers did anything really wrong. Maybe one of the people in this thread who has just finished reading the book can comment more specifically on what she wrote about the incident.
By the way, I got the sense from reading the book that she MUST have become romantically involved with one of those two shark researchers, but she didn’t mention that. Was that among the accusations?
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They had no idea the sailboat was gone until the morning, when the storm was over and they woke up. It was still moored the night before, when they rescued her.
Again, I don’t know if she’s telling the truth or not, and it’s been so long since I read the book that I can’t remember everything about it (I just looked for my copy but couldn’t find it at the moment, alas), but if what I remember is accurate and her account is accurate, it didn’t seem like she or the researchers did anything really wrong. Maybe one of the people in this thread who has just finished reading the book can comment more specifically on what she wrote about the incident.
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It seems to me like it’s hard to understand why she would need rescuing if the sailboat was still moored. I’m not trying to harp on you, chorpler, so my apologies if I’m coming off as a bit abrasive, I just don’t have a high opinion of Casey’s honesty. ![]()
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It seems to me like it’s hard to understand why she would need rescuing if the sailboat was still moored. I’m not trying to harp on you, chorpler, so my apologies if I’m coming off as a bit abrasive, I just don’t have a high opinion of Casey’s honesty. ![]()
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No problem at all – I don’t have a dog in this fight, and it seems you’re way more familiar with the players. I’m just trying to recount what’s in the book (which I found quite engrossing – it sounds like the Farallon Islands would be the perfect setting for a horror novel).
Essentially, as best I can recall, the boat was moored in a weird way, suspended between the buoy and a canyon wall by two ropes, and as the storm got worse the up-and-down motion of the boat was getting worse, and she became convinced that the waves were going to break the ropes and set her adrift in a boat that she wasn’t comfortable piloting (because she never intended to actually sail it, just to stay on it so she’d be within the letter of the law) in a big storm that she thought might capsize the boat, so she panicked and the gallant scientist came to her rescue.
(That’s one of the reasons I think she must have become romantically involved with one of those two guys – why else would they risk so much to accomodate her? Later on, when I got the hardback book, I discovered that she is a reasonably attractive blonde woman who somewhat resembles Lisa Kudrow, which reinforced my suspicions that she and one of those scientists must have hooked up.)
ETA: And, from reading reviews on Amazon, it seems like a lot of other readers think the same thing.
Frankly, I thought that sharks attacked people simply because we’re made of meat.
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Frankly, I thought that sharks attacked people simply because we’re made of meat.
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I think the arguement against that is simply that we aren’t meaty enough, and that if they just ate us because we’re made of meat, they’d eat a hell of a lot more of us. Shark attacks are kind of rare in proportion to the amount of time we spend in the water.
We eat meat. Robins are made of meat. We don’t usually eat robins because it’s not worth our effort. If the robins were monitoring us as a danger to robinkind, you can imagine they’d come up with interesting results:
Synopsis report by the Robin Human Attack Action Group**
Fatal attacks are usually by juvenile humans. Juveniles may attack either adults, young or even eggs.
Most juveniles don’t attack. Often a juvenile known to have attacked can be demonstrated never to attack again.
Sometimes, rarely, there will be a group juvenile attack, or very rarely, an attack by a lone adult. Combined adult and juvenile attacks are virtually unknown.
Sometimes adults or juveniles will chase away another predator (cat) and not attack themselves - so they aren’t attempting to take the prey item. Are they showing dominance?
Neither adults nor juveniles usually eat the corpse, although they will occassionally bury it, and there are a anecdotal instances of them cooking and consuming part or all of the corpse.
More research is indicated to attempt to determine conditions which may provoke an attack.
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I’ve read that sharks are such efficient predators that if they attacked out of hunger there would hardly ever be anything left of the victim. So is it a territorial aggression thing? Or do they take a bite or two and think, “That’s not a seal; that tastes like shit!”? Some other reason?
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Some people think it’s an adaptation to effective prey handling - that the first bite is likely to make the prey bleed to death, so why worry about all that thrashing? The shark bites, lets the prey die, and then eats it.
Actually, I’ve seen a couple shark attacks where a lot of thrashing goes on, so I can’t say I really buy into that.
I think it’s more likely that the shark realizes the prey is low-fat (they’re very anti-diet
) - I don’t have any figures handy on elephant seal body fat, but their mother’s milk is about 40% fat, so that gives some impression of how much fat these prey animals have. A low-fat prey item like a human is probably not worth bothering with from the shark’s perspective, so it spits us out and doesn’t press the attack.
I’ve never imitated a moth, and I was eaten. That must prove it
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I’ve heard the rumor that one of the researchers had marital problems stemming from Casey’s visit in addition to the job problems. I didn’t really want to talk about it because I can’t confirm it and don’t really want to delve into this person’s private life. You may be right.