Because they’re in their 30’s and their business is failing and the bills are piling up and the future looks bleak because it looks like their whole life will be a series of dead end jobs and nobody likes them because they’re annoying. Or that could just be me.
He’s just working on his act, here and in other threads.
Again it is easy enough to point out the flaw in my thinking if you have one; resorting to a personal insult really weakens your position and tends to confirm mine.
Alcoholism is a serious, destructive problem, and one of the reasons is that people tend to deny that they have the problem. People who jump to the defense of getting drunk are top of that list and need seriously to think and not just be defensive against others who see the signs.
I made no personal insult. Even if I had, if that’s the sort information you would use to solidify your position, that says more about your reasoning than it does mine.
You have given no argument how, based on a single message board post, it is reasonable to assert with complete certainty that someone is an alcoholic. It is not my job to disprove that assertion. If anything it’s your job to prove such an extraordinary claim.
I am responding less about your opinion that a person could be an alcoholic than to your absolute certainty that you can diagnose someone so easily.
I know plenty about alcoholism, being one whose been sober for a bit over 2 years now, and it’s painfully clear that Mean Old Lady is spot on and you’re full of shit. Being unable to drink sensibly is my problem, and my responsibility to deal with, no-one else’s, and most people seem quite able to drink without ending up like me.
Alcoholism, ultimately, has nothing to do with drinking for fun. I miss like hell drinking for fun. I don’t miss waking up in my own vomit, being unwell all the time, and spending almost all my spare money on booze, let alone being even more of an arsehole than I am sober.
OK, but by the same token, it seems to me you ought to stop projecting your view of the role of alcohol in your life on everyone else.
To wit:
This, to me, comes across as “I’ve got the key to the highway, and you’re not quite up to my level.” And yes, as derisive.
Thank you for reading!
Someone shows up with a March 2014 join date and starts posting nonsense all over the place. Yeah, totally taking this guy seriously.
Yes, my posts were in direct response to posts in which she said there are people out there with problems who can’t control themselves, and one of them actually advised that derp, derp, no one else should drink then. Yes, I am derisive of such an opinion. Because it is stupid.
On the other hand, there are some folks in this thread who said they don’t drink just because they don’t like to, for reasons varying from it just doesn’t feel good to them or that it invokes nausea. Fair enough, I wouldn’t drink if it were nauseating either, but yeah, I feel comfortable mocking people who say “Drinking is bad, guise, I know because me and my dad are really bad at it!”
The other night I drunkenly made out with a woman I never would have made out with if I were sober. It was cool at the time, I guess, but now I’m kicking myself because it’s going to be awkward as shit whenever I see her again.
So yeah, I enjoy getting drunk because it relieves tension and reduces my inhibitions to the point that I’m more willing to be outgoing and step outside of my comfort zone. On the other hand, it also opens me up to doing the kind of dumb shit that I mentioned earlier.
Oh well, live and learn.
Friggin’ wino.
That’s rough. On the bright side, how often do you really have to visit your grandmother?
For the win.
“I feel sorry for people who don’t drink. When they wake up in the morning, that’s as good as they’re going to feel all day.” ~~Frank Sinatra
Because it feels great, man. You feel more outgoing and less shy. You also feel number and it seems like you’re making no effort to walk because you don’t feel your feet 100%.
I wish I could always be at least slightly drunk. Life is much better with booze, unfortunately
God, after reading this thread, I could really use a drink.
The question was not about an occasional drink, even if its a daily thing, but about getting drunk. It seems to me people sometimes avoid the reality by minimizing it and only talking about the less harmful behaviors.
What makes you think Frank was talking about an occasional drink?
The fact is that an occasional drink is relatively harmless unless you have liver disease; getting drunk, even now and then, is evidence of incipient alcoholism. People who joke about being smashed are a real worry as alcoholism is insidious and denial is one of the most easily determined symptoms.
A huh.
100% of people who drink eventually die :eek:
Wow what an intelligent and responsible way to avoid the issue.