'Why do the Bush's like starting wars?'

The BBQ Pit
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Don’t flame me! Notice that the title is in quotation marks.

This comment was made to me by a Pakistani that lives in my dorm. Talk about ignorant!

It was late at night, and I was brushing my teeth when he came into the bathroom and asked me the question, “Why do the Bush’s like starting wars?”

I was pretty surprised, I know he’s Muslim, and I know he’s from Pakistan, but I wouldn’t have expected this. It was the first time we’d even discussed what happened with the terrorists, etc., and he was the one that brought it up.

I sat there, thinking about what I heard, and all I could come up with was, “Ummmm . . . we were the ones that were attacked.” After I said that he started backpeddaling, talking about how Pakistan was ready and they were just waiting for America to “make the first move.”

Now he knows that I wasn’t the biggest fan of Bush (notice the past tense) during the election. So I don’t know if he thought I would side with the Taliban on this one or what.

This guy works on campus (apparently he’s allowed to do that), but he doesn’t have to pay any taxes (other than on stuff he buys) because he’s not a citizen. And then he pulls this shit? I just don’t understand it.

Before this, he was always talking about what great friends the US and Pakistan are how we have treaties with each other and how they are our friends. He says they aren’t planning to use their Nukes, they just have them to keep India from attacking them. I wasn’t up on international affairs so I didn’t know that we weren’t great buddies with Pakistan, and I’ve been tempted to ask him what the deal with Pakistan not wanting to help out was if our countries were such great “friends.” I’ve held out though, and haven’t said any of those things. Then he says something like we were the ones that started this.

I know this is a really weak rant, but I was hoping someone would explain what this idiot’s thought process was. If other people feel like ripping in to him, it’s all good. I’m sure you can do a better job than I would’ve had I really tried.

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turn him over to the feds.

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Oblong, are you being serious? About the tax stuff, apparently they’re allowed to do that. It’s legal, at least the university doesn’t have any problem employing all these non-citizens.

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No, it’s not a joke. And it’s not about taxes.

If he is talking about a threat to national security, then turn him in to the Federal Beauro of Investigation (FBI). He could be a terrorist. I’m not being alarmist, but I would be careful about him.

–==the sax man==–

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No, don’t turn him over to the FBI. They’ve got enough on their hands whithout needing to investigate people who are merely thoughtless.

Unless you’ve got a reason to suspect illegal activity?

No? Well, aside from speaking thoughtlessly, I can’t see any harm here. We certaianly don’t need to spread intollerance. Let’s not slip back into the “Intern Them All” behaviours, hmmm? We’re better than that.

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"An apostrophe does NOT mean “Here comes an ‘s’!” -– Podkayne, 2000

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If you are seriously recommending “turning someone in” just for being stupid, don’t be silly. Real “terrorists” obviously do not go around blathering like that but are all trained to be inconspicuous “nice guys next door”, otherwise they fail. The U.S. is still a free country and everyone – yes even Pakistanis – have a right to express any twisted ideas they might have.

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You seem quite familiar with the terrorists’ modus operandi.

[McCarthy]
What did you say your address was?
[/McCarthy]

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Hell with turning him in.

Be the next guy on national news by simply BEATING HIM SENSELESS.

God knows there is not enough of that around.

Seriously though, just tell him you find his remarks offensive. That might be enough to indicate to him you dont find our current pres’ war monger.

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he has to pay taxes.

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a) He pays taxes just like you. Or do you actually have a job? If not, he pays more taxes than you.

b) I find it incredibly hard to believe that someone in his position (i.e. a Muslim, a Pakistani, and a non-citizen in a country that’s just been horribly violated) would say something so offensive. Anything’s possible; there are plenty of idiots out there. But based on the fact that you lied at least once in your post (see #a above), I’m not inclined to believe you.

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apotheosis, you found me out, I’m an avid reader of newspapers! :wink:
But unfortunately an obsessive one ever since this all started. :frowning:

But seriously, let the police and other authorities look for terrorists, please don’t start any witch hunts.

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Edited Quote, (Bill)

“I find it incredibly hard to believe that someone in his position would say something so offensive”

You sir, under-estimate the bounds of both human pride and stupitity.

If I were a pridefull musslim I might just march into a Klan rally.

Wouldn’t say much for my intelligence.

I could be a blue eyed man in Watts with a “All niggers suck ass” teeshirt on.

Again, perfectly within my rights. Still asking for trouble.

I saw today, three perfectly innocent Arabs forced off a plane because people were afraid of them.

Noe THAT is a tragedy.(one of) These people are American citizens, going about their busnisess in a non-offensive way.

Your dorm mate does nothing with his right to free speach but insure people hate him and his country

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Man, just yesterday, this white guy…I mean he might have been French or something, came up to me and said my shoe was untied! Now I don’t know much about France or any more of those other commie countries, but I do know they have those funny little dogs and I don’t trust a country full of men with funny little dogs. I bet this guy cheats on his taxes and claims his cats as dependents! I bet he goes home and grins maniacly at the thought! This guy even had a job. I didn’t even know they let those mime-lovin’ Europeople work around here. How, I ask, can you be a real member of this society if you aint American and you don’t drink Bud? And get this, the Frogspeak bastard even said “I think the weather is nice”. This man has no right to an opinion! You know how those French are…when us good hard working American citizens were busy building the railroads and stuff those Frogs were snacking on their god damnned toast. All Frenchmen think like that. Man should consider himself lucky that we even let him look at our Budwiser, man. Chances are he’ll see the ads and start getting ideas about our wimmin.

…what were we talking about?

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Even some U.S. citizens don’t have to pay taxes. If one receives income under a certain amount, then the tax on said income is zero.

Try not to be too much of an isolationist, anti-foreigner asshole, okay?

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Perhaps the tax shot is irrelevant, but I don’t see anything in the OP suggesting he has been anything but civil to this gentleman. There’s no racist jargon, no stereotypes, unless I missed something. The fact that this man is Muslim and Pakistani sets some background, but just as we should not make any judgments about him because of this background, neither should we grant him any special latitude.

Like Bush or no, assuming that he has instigated this conflict is ignorance.

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Dignan raises an eyebrow at a patently offensive remark (implying the US started this), and shows frustration at the attitude of a guest in this country, and that makes him an asshole?

Please, Monty, try to be a little bit more of a self-righteous prick. I don’t think you can.

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Then you are both patently illiterate and stupid, furt.

You must have missed this cute little bit:

“Apparently he’s allowed to do that.” “Apparently he’s allowed to do that.” “Apparently he’s allowed to do that.”

I put that there 3 times so you don’t miss it this time.

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Yeah, thats the bit that got me too. Apparently the OP believes that foreign residesnt should be resigned to working for free at shoe shine boths or something.

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I’m sorry but I find it hard to believe that he would jump bad in your face like that seeing how bad the climate is for foreigners being on campus and all.
But incidents are popping up more, and I suspect more and more of them will happen.