Why do we flat out reject CT's? [Conspiracy Theories]

A letter by George Washington, a post by you, and a cite in the Encyclopaedia Britannica.

You think that the Illuminati did not exist after 1785 and you think that “it was revived briefly a few decades later”. Well, which is it?!

In volume 22, page 226, Encyclopaedia Britannica:

The Elector of Bavaria banned the Illuminati, apparently in a March 2, 1785 edict. The Illuminati was banned in Bavaria; however, the Illuminati was not banned in Italy.

There is evidence that the Illuminati was banned in Bavaria in 1785 and that the Illuminati was revived a few decades later in Italy.

So, you are just making a pedantic point about the Illuminati possibly existing (briefly) in Italy after the 1785 date then?

-XT

Wasn’t this dealt with already? He never said the organization still existed. He said the ideas did, and those ideas were not unique.

You can’t seriously be basing on argument on this - if you were, it wouldn’t have taken you a week to ask me this. I said in my first post on the subject that I thought I remembered that they were revived later. I didn’t repeat that comment and contradicted it repeatedly, and that should’ve been a hint that I’d figured out I was wrong.

The fact that they were not banned is not evidence they still existed after the bulk of the organization was suppressed. A much simpler conclusion is that they fell apart after the ban.

You must’ve accidentally hit “Submit” before the part where you posted the evidence they still existed in Italy, the evidence for the NWO, and the evidence that ties them together. I assume you’ll be posting that in a minute.

But the Illuminati who became the NWO are not the same Illuminati who were banned, but rather another group who adopted the name of the Illuminati to hide their actual origins as the New World Order.

It was the 18th-century version of Identity Theft.

Damn… they are good! :eek:

Probably because CTs are proposed and defended by people who are incapable of putting together a rational thought, seeing all opposing evidence as proof that the “conspiracy” was successful.

in Bavaria.

Because there are a number of events out there that prove that the US government had manipulated events for its own good, there are a number of events out there that I think prove that the Illuminati had manipulated governments for its own ends.

Why do we flat out dismiss the idea that governments have manipulated the Illuminati for their own ends? Such a convenient scapegoat.

You have to admit that it’s possible, or else prove me wrong.

Uh, no, many of those events actually make the situations worse for the rulers of the day, not to mention that for several of them there is plenty of evidence that those conspiracies are based on retarded ideas (like the Clinton body count)

Just looking at history I do remember that there is evidence that the assassin of Archduke Ferdinand that precipitated WWI was helped by the local secret intelligence in Sarajevo, and yet the results are with us to this day, the rulers of the day lost power and even the winners of the wars of the 20th century are now having trouble keeping everything together. Point being is that all glory is fleeting. The idea that a single group can influence all important events to a goal that benefits them forever ignores that even dynasties die out.

absolutely true story follows

Exactly 29 minutes after I last posted, I was driving down the Interstate* when I saw two unmarked black helicopters passing overhead. Not only that, there were chemtrails in the sky at the time.

Coincidence? I think not.

*not safe to provide the exact location.

29 minutes? 29 minutes is *1740 *seconds, and 1740 was only 8 years before Adam Weishaupt was born!

Jack, don’t play dumb.
The Illuminati[sup]tm[/sup] brand fillings in your teeth already let us track you by GPS, among other things.

:rolleyes: Really?

Not a 2,000-year-old conspiracy, there couldn’t. And the only known real one turned out to be a hoax.

Do not wake the sheeple.

Orwell was not a conspiracy theorist and had nothing good to say about such.

Still waiting.

From the 1994 Encyclopaedia Britannica, Volume 29, Page 961:

So here we have Colonel Dimitrijevic head of Serbia’s military intelligence and also head of the secret society Union or Death plotting the assassination of Archduke Francis Ferdinand. Colonel Dimitrijevic does not carry out the assassination - Gavrillo Princip does that - but from his unique position he is able to know the details about the Archduke that allow the assassination to be successful.

And his alias is Apis. I know at least one other secret society that uses aliases.

Other than the assassinations and the wars and the like, they are a nice group of folks.

And you just repeated what I said, minus the observation that they did not endure nor got what they wanted, Serbia had even less independence after the wars and then they had to endure Slobodan Miloševic.

Still waiting.

Your naivete astounds me.

Non-sheeple have already had their horribly toxic amalgam fillings removed by trustworthy Biological Dentists. And the recommended twice-weekly bentonite clay detox baths are known to block GPS rays.

Ron Paul in 2012!!!