I’m going to add to the list of conspiracy theories that I got from Wikipedia.
I reject conspiracy theories involving the assassination of President John F. Kennedy; however, I do not reject conspiracy theories involving the assassination of Archduke Francis Ferdinand. Perhaps now you can see why I do not reject conspiracy theories involving the New World Order. And the Federal Reserve System? Nothing to worry about. It’s just a bank. :rolleyes:
From Wikipedia, List of conspiracy theories:
World War I - conspiracy involving the assassination of Archduke Francis Ferdinand – real
New World Order - possible
Federal Reserve System - possible
False flag operations - 9/11 – rejected
Wars - FDR having full knowledge of the Pearl Harbor attack – rejected
Coup d’etat - Operation Ajax – real
Assassinations - JFK – rejected
Clinton body count - rejected by Snopes
Barack Obama birth conspiracy theories - rejected by SDMB
Anti-semetic conspiracy theories - The Protocols of the Elders of Zion – rejected as a forgery
Armenian International Conspiracy - rejected
“Babylon” - Haile Selassie did not die – rejected
Eurabia - rejected
Arab fascist axis - Martin Bormann did not die - rejected
Baha’i - rejected
Apocalyptic prophecies - rejected
Bible conspiracy theory - Jesus had a wife – possible
Catholicism as a veiled continuation of Babylonian paganism - rejected
Suppression of technologies - possible
Development of weapons technologies - Manhattan Project – real
Weapons testing - possible
Surveillance, espionage and intelligence agencies - real
DTV transition - possible
Medicine - AIDS was “invented” – rejected
Drug legalization - hemp competing with pulp paper – rejected
Diet - rejected
Creation of diseases - AIDS is a man-made disease – rejected
Water fluoridation - rejected
Traditional, natural and alternative medicines – possible
Peak oil - possible
Real groups said to be involved in conspiracies - possible
Alleged groups associated with conspiracy theories - rejected
The Plan - rejected
Extraterrestrials - Roswell UFO incident – rejected
Evil aliens - reptilians – rejected
Miscellaneous - rejected
Moon landing conspiracy theories - rejected
With Wikipedia being the wave of the future and all, replacing Britannica, I figured Wikipedia would be the best reference source.
I do reject them because of the big elephant in the room, besides not having evidence beyond a local plot, when I look at history blown up conspiracy theories like that are the first propaganda tool for demagogues to take power, like in Germany when it became gospel that someone did back-stab them after the first world war, guess who they blamed as the ones that controlled everything (and the banks)?
No, even if you want to ignore it there are more plausible and limited explanations for assassination plots and manipulative conspiracy theories, many times the result of the ones that attempt them is so convoluted and the opposite of what the plotters intended, that one has to conclude that the truth is what we see: powerful men that also are incompetent and not as far seeing as you want them to be.
I honestly don’t know why you guys are bothering. You absolutely cannot change one’s mind once they’ve adopted this ridiculous CT mindset. They can’t put together a consistent argument, let alone understand how to interpret the merits of evidence.
Why is it always assumed that world government necessarily leads to pacifism? As if all the solutions to the problems of the 242 countries of the world are to be found in world government.
Duly noted.
I will have a consistent argument once I reply to this post:
And while you are at it, don’t forget to read about the harm many do suffer for swallowing conspiracies like that when they follow them against all evidence:
The point here is that until there is no chaos, conspiracies will only affect a few clueless people, but once disaster strikes history shows that then many conspiracy theories are used very effectively by demagogues to mobilize thousands if not millions that can be misled easily when very difficult times come.
Pacifism or not, it leads to peace. And environmental problems do not respect political boundaries – the world is like a spiderweb where whatever happens at location A has some effect at location B – we need some kind of global EPA with real teeth. Once again, why do you have anything against this “New World Order,” if it exists?
I would make the point also that it will not be the countries governments the reason that could cause a world government to be formed, but it will be because many corporations are doing such unsavory stuff at a global level that the governments and even other corporations that will be affected negatively will unite to reign the rogue companies in.
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Pacifism or not, it leads to peace. And environmental problems do not respect political boundaries – the world is like a spiderweb where whatever happens at location A has some effect at location B – we need some kind of global EPA with real teeth. Once again, why do you have anything against this “New World Order,” if it exists?
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The simple answer is that if a NWO type organization exists (which it doesn’t), then they are working behind the scenes and in the shadows, and are doing so for their own ends and using distasteful methods to accomplish those ends. We aren’t talking about nations (and their citizens) engaged in wanting to form a world government, but a few (supposed) shadowy and extremely powerful people trying to do this for their own gain and pretty much against the interests and certainly without the knowledge of the vast majority of the citizens in the countries being bonded together by fiat and the will of a powerful few. If you don’t see why this is a Bad Idea™ then I’m not sure what more to tell you.
Thankfully, it’s a load of horseshit, so not something we need to fret about.
They have been slow in their payments to me, then, so not sure if I can continue to go along. I might have to come out with real evidence demonstrating that many of the more popular Conspiracy Theories are, in fact, real and…
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Is that a helicopter I hear in the distance? I’ll get back to you guys later…
I think ultimately the point is that if a conspiracy is so secret that its effect on the world is indistinguishable from not having that conspiracy in the first place, why bother assuming it exists?
Same logic applies to Santa Claus, God, etc.
Unfortunately, God happens to be a crazy exception to this sort of mindset.
At the lowest level is governments, at a higher level is the Illuminati, and at the highest level is someone - known to no one - manipulating the Illuminati for their own design.
When this someone dies, who replaces him? How is this person notified that “The Ruler of Earth died and you’re now in charge”? Certified mail? Western Union? Text message?
Are the Illuminati notified that they have a new master, or does this guy just secretly take over the reins?
I’m really interested in the succession issues these someones have dealt with for the past 200-odd years, and so secretly, too.
