But back to my point that God doesn’t exist.
Do vaccinations cause autism? No. And quite a lot of religious people, AFAIK, the majority of them, accept that fact.
Is global warming real? Yes. And quite a lot of religious people, AFAIK, the majority of them, accept that fact.
Can wearing a facemask prevent the spread of COVID-19? Yes. And quite a lot of religious people, AFAIK, the majority of them, accept that fact.
You might want to rethink your rhetoric. The fundied out types in the US are not a majority of religious people in the US, let alone in the world. Also, you seem to not understand that not all religions posit a deity.
Some of them are very nice people, do charity work, etc. Some enjoy a sense of community through their religion, perhaps find a moral guidance.
Do unto others etc…isn’t a bad philosophy to live by.
From my OP
We get to say “uh no, there isn’t a magic giant in the sky” when we can prove it, Like you I am an Athiest, I don’t believe in God or religion, but unlike you I accept the fact that I could be wrong about that
whether they posit a deity or not… so your argument is you don’t believe in a magic giant in the sky so all my arguments are invalid? i’m sure your religion is one of peace and harmony, as they all are, but as i am only familar with Abrahamic , please enlighten me.
No that makes you an Agnostic. You are not an Atheist.
Doesn’t that suggest an answer to your question?
You asked: “At what point do we get to say, uh no, there isn’t a magic giant in the sky.” So: what does it mean to mention that you’re an atheist? Let’s say that someone starts in with some magic-giant-in-the-sky talk, and that your response is either (a) that you’re an atheist, not an agnostic; or (b) that there isn’t, as it were, a magic giant in the sky. Isn’t the latter merely a subset of the former?
I think many people on the agnostic/atheist spectrum get confused about this.
Atheist affirmatively assert they is no magic giant in the sky
Agnostics say I’m not saying there is or isn’t magic giant in the sky, i just don’t know.
of course i’m paraphrasing
But put aside whether folks are 100% clear on what agnosticism is; what message do you think people get from you when they say something about a magic giant in the sky and you reply that you’re an atheist?
I’m not clear on your question
Say I ask which church of The Magic Giant In The Sky you go to, and you reply that you’re an atheist.
What have you just communicated to me?
I think i know where you are going with this. My Religion is atheism. Nice try.
So i’m just as religious as you…blah blah blah
I don’t have faith in some sort of supernatural world. Science is not a religion.
No, where I’m going with it is, uh, where I already went: “that your response is either (a) that you’re an atheist, not an agnostic; or (b) that there isn’t, as it were, a magic giant in the sky. Isn’t the latter merely a subset of the former?”
I’m saying that, as far as I can tell, when you say you’re an atheist, you’re already saying there isn’t a magic giant in the sky. You asked: at what point do we get to say, uh, no, there isn’t — and my answer is, whenever you say that you’re an atheist.
You asked and it’s been answered.
Because there’s way more of them than there are of you.
So they will be able to kill all of you before you kill all of them.
Have a go if you want; otherwise, get used to it.
WE as a society, don’t get to say there is no magic giant in the sky. Yes I personally can.
Why should we put up with Atheists? They are prone to crime, our prisons are full of them. We engaged in a decades long cold war against Atheists. The level of hypocrisy among Atheists is incredible, they fill up our churches pretending to believe in God but don’t actually and then steal religious philosophy to advance their Atheistic agendas. Then there are the other fair weather Atheists who fill up our foxholes in times of danger.
And every one of them has an insufferable sense of superiority despite the fact that the vast majority have never accomplished anything that competes with the advancements of humanity produced by so many religious people.
I’d like to know the OP’s definition of “religious people.”
People who attend church on Sundays, but who don’t let that interfere with their everyday affairs?
People who do not attend church on Sundays, but still hold to tenets such as “love thy neighbor,” and “do unto others.”
People who wear religious garb, such as a yarmulke, but don’t bother anyone in any way about religion?
People who introduce themselves as, “Hi, my name’s Jerry, and I attend the First Church of Jesus, and we’d love to see you on Sunday morning, if you’d care to attend.” And leave you alone after that. If you don’t show up, Jerry doesn’t care.
Or could it be people who say, “Sinner! You need to be saved! You need to accept Jesus Christ as your personal–and he is a personal–savior. Because if you don’t, you’ll end up in hell. Eternal torment, at Satan’s minion’s hand. Fire and brimstone! Accept Jesus now!”
I’d suggest that our OP has encountered too many of the latter, and not enough of the former.
What is a person who says, uh no, there is no tooth fairy to do?
Mind your own business. You’re only called on to express a view if they don’t mind theirs and try to impose their views on you, in which case “Not my thing” or something similar should suffice.
I’d really prefer to see all the “ceremonial deism” go away. In god we trust? No, that’s not true.