That should be “offence”, not office
And not only that, the stuff they play on the radio is the bad melancholy commercialized post-grunge alt-rock bands complaining about their girl leaving them. The goodmelancholy post-grunge alt-rock bands complaining about their girl leaving them don’t get airplay. No, I’m serious!
That music is out there, but so is a plethora of music that does not fit that description. For every great artist in your list, there is another artist working today whose work will also pass the test of time and be reminisced about petulantly by this generation, when they grow old and nostalgic.
This discussion takes place with every generation of music lovers; and every generation has its great artists.
No, but there are many, many artists who WILL be remembered.
And dare I even bring hip-hop into the mix, which, as a popular music form, basically did not exist pre-1981 and, whether you like it or not, has been the most seismic development in pop music since rock’s debut in the late 50s?
You did specify “rock music forms,” to be fair, but the OP’s question is broader than that.
I think a great deal of the differance heard from mid 70’s on is that record companies weren’t having as many artisit write & record there own material in many cases. That is especially true now. You find someone who looks marketable and is willing to put up with the touring demands, have a real artisit write some songs for them paying them pennies on the dollar if that , slap together an album with three or 4 singles and Bam- never heard from that person again. Maybe a sophmore attempt is the first album was a big hit, but look at someone like Avril Lavinge- what the hell ever happend to her or Good Charlotte? They are gone becasue they were nothing but quick cash puppets for teeny bop pop fans. It makes more money - thats what it comes down to. Take an band like u2. If those guys release an album they know it is going to sell- they are guaranteed that to a point (although they better start producing some higher caliber stuff that No Line on The Horizon…) The record company has to pay them a much greater dividend. Same with Metallica or any other big stadium act. But if they sign up somebody small and promote the hell out of them they can “create” a star and make a crap load of money of idiots. I once had a friend who swore that anyone on the Billboard top 40 deserved respect… what got em there- record sales, that came from radio play, and who controls that- the record company with licences. They simply let he stations play the stuff they want them to play for cheap. All politics and buisness, nothng to do with music anymore
Damn, you know it’s a zombie thread when some fool links to frickin’ MySpace. Ugh. :rolleyes:
That site’s still up and the “podcasts” on each page are still downloadable. It stopped being updated years ago, when it became apparent that no one was interested, but hell’s bells, there’s some damn great music there, and it all sounds as good to me (ok, to ME) as it always did. Not everybody will like every song because nobody’s as weird as me, it’s a good way to sample a bunch of different artists and song types.
It’s the old addage: Do you want it good or cheap? The music industry wants to turn a buck fast, so quality (and talent) goes in the trash. What a shame. I bet kids these days don’t even know the joy of a energetic jam session on their air guitars! 
At least I got my answer to whether Hoobastank or Staind will still be around.
You know, just because it’s from the 70s doesn’t mean we’re congenitally incapable of hearing it. And there are definitely modern songs that are great to airjam to.
I will agree that, in general, radio stations play a disappointing pablum of modern music. Which is why I love my Current and listen to it as much as possible.
I just don’t listen to music so much any more. I listen to the oldies radio in the car and I have several burned
CDs with a very wide range of music from folk to show tunes to classic to big band, disco/dance, rock. I have plenty to chose from the past and am happy with what I’ve got…for me, the music stopped after the birth of my daughter. Too busy to go out to clubs or concerts, just didn’t care
bon Jovi had a new one out!
but. As she grew older, I found a whole lot of newer music courtesy she and her friends that I added to the list. I didn’t seek it out, but overheard and thought, “so that’s 9 Inch Nails, I like it”. I will telll you, “Jump Around” by House of Pain or “Rump Shaker” by
Wreck EFX (?) are swell tunes and served the purpose of getting her to leave a friend’s house when I came to pick her up. If she wasn’t out the door in 5 minutes after I beeped the horn, the whole neighborhood heard one of those songs at top volume, lol!
NIN is great and all…back when I was your daughters age.
Actually I did read an article that described how modern music is measurably less diverse than music from seveal decades ago. Fewer chords, less range, specific timings and beats and whatnot. Which supports what I’ve long suspected. That record execs are pushing out this generic dance/pop hip hop (featuring some dude from Coldplay, Maroon 5 or OneRepublic) based on algorithms designed in a lab somewhere.
I listen to Jazz.
Every performance is new & fresh, obviously.
The advice “listen to underground stuff” is perfectly sound advice to somebody who says they don’t like that genre. Think about it: what’s somebody’s exposure to a genre likely to be? By the laws of probability, probably the popular stuff. If they hate all the stuff they heard, it’s likely the popular stuff.
Thus, most people who say they hate music find that, if they find music they like, it’s pretty obviously not going to be the popular stuff. It’s just that in the '70s finding underground music recordings was a fool’s errand because, you know, no internet.
There is a certain perception among a certain subset of people that “mainstream music sucks”, but the advice “if you don’t like <x>, try the underground stuff since you’ll probably like it more” itself isn’t necessarily grounded in that.
I don’t know, with a few exceptions, I can’t stand anything produced after Gregorian Chant went out of vogue.
Stupid edit time limit…
And there is a very wide range of music still being produced.
Bartholomew by The Silent Comedy is very reminiscent of some of the musically minimalist rock that popped up even among popular bands a couple decades ago (by that I mean songs like “We Will Rock You” which were very, very good, but not musically complex).
Cage the Elephant’s music from their First Album is sort of an alternate branch of music development, if Rock had stayed in vogue forever. I’m not a huge fan of The Hives, but what I’ve heard of them is similar.
I’d drone on and on about other music that’s completely different from even this like Streetlight Manifesto, etc etc. But I don’t think anybody wants to sit here while I link to a billion different songs.
Even so, even mainstream music has some variety. In 200…7 was it? The top 40 included songs like Girlfriend by Avril Lavigne, and Hey There Deliliah by Plain White T’s along with the stuff like Crank That Soulja Boy. I’m not even convinced those three songs are from the same planet. Obligatory remix of all top 25 Billboard hits of 2007 (he’s done one for every year since then) that shows off some of the variety. Granted the majority of them are very similar, but there’s almost always a couple like Girlfriend and Hey There Delilah that he seems to dedicate a section to because he can’t really decide what to do with them since they just don’t fit.
sometimes while watching old fave 70s and 80s music videos you sometimes think if these groups were around today they’d be berated as too wierd, too different, be berated for their sub-par dancing etc.