Fuck Disney, Don Bluth is the man. All Dogs Go To Heaven = best surreal trippy horrifying kids’ cartoon movie ever.
You laugh, but there was a Pit thread about two years ago where a woman absolutely loathed Disney films, and refused to let anyone let her daughter see them. Brb, going to attempt search-fu.
That was a rooftop. Can’t have people thinking it’s a repetition of Snow White, you know.
Mulan - Death by fireworks
Near miss: In Lady and the Tramp, Trusty was squished by the dogcatcher’s wagon, but Unca Walt, mindful of the brouhaha over Bambi’s mother, insisted he be revived for the denouement.
Ooh, boy. I had forgotten who started that one, no wonder it was so memorable.
Don’t be such a Jerk, Ukulele Ike
The old Disney animated movies are great, but Disney the man was kind of an asshole. I don’t actually remember the specifics, but a lot of it is covered in the book Fast Food Nation.
I will stick my neck out.
To my raised during the MTV era sensabilities, the classic films are boring and the character’s voices are irritating. I am not saying that they are bad or poorly made, I can appreciate the work that went into them, and I can understand why people like them, but they just don’t entertain me and they can’t keep me awake. I am just not an old (pre late 60’s) movie fan, mainly due to slow pacing and overly dramatic dialogue delivery.
I have been to Disney World and Disney Land. All in all, I felt kinda fleeced, used, maybe even a little manipulated by the Disney Empire- kinda like I did when I bought my first car from a dealer.
I get a similar feeling when I watch the Disney Channel (which is why it is rarely on in my house). I can’t stand the way that Disney tries to shove Hannah Montana and High School Musical down my kid’s and other’s throats around every corner. In addition, screw the the Disney Store and the poorly made overpriced plastic crap that they sell in there.
Don’t know much about Walt Disney the man, don’t got nothing against him.
Holy crap what a trainwreck! I actually read 8 pages of that–mainly because I was hoping someone would bring up the point that I objected to by the OP, that is, that if you have financial means to not put your kid in daycare, but choose to put them in daycare anyway, that you “don’t care enough”. That seemed so odd to me. I was a stay at home mom, but we put Dominic in daycare a few days a week because it was the only way to get him socialized with other kids! Nobody we knew had kids, and IMO it would have been uncaring to raise him without contact with other children his own age. But at least in the first 8 pages, nobody brought up that point. Hmph.
This is what I dislike about Disney movies. On the whole, I do enjoy Disney movies, but there are parts of them that irritate me. For example, I hate the huge chins that so many characters (mostly males) have. I also hate the mascot characters that are in many movies. A couple of examples would be the wacky gargoyle in The Hunchback of Notre Dame and the minidragon AND cricket in Mulan. The minidragon was necessary, yes, but should have been very restrained. The cricket could have been used purely as a good luck charm and not as a mascot, and I believe the movie would have been better for it.
I have to say that usually the artwork and animation is spectacular. The songs are fantastic. And I really wish that they’d quit sanitizing the stories.
It’s been a very long time since I’ve seen Mulan and I might be mistaken, but wasn’t there a scene where the heroine goes to some kind of family shrine to pray to her ancestors, and they appear to her in the form of a bunch of silly-assed whimsical ghosts or something? If the scene is the way I remember it, isn’t that kind of disrespectful to ancient Chinese culture? I mean, we’re talking about centuries and centuries of extremely serious tradition with regards to the reverence of one’s ancestors.
You know who liked Disney, don’t you?
HITLER!
I think that alot of Disney movies are childish in content.
A lot of it has been said above – although there atre plenty of reasons to be dissatisfied with Disney the man and his business practices, the main critical reason for disliking Disney is that he cleaned everythuing up and put a happy gloss and his own spin on everything. A Disney film would not, in general, be true to its roots. Look at the way the Disney folks restructured and rewrote Kipling’s “The Jungle Book”, or the way Travers disapproved of what they did with “Mary Popins”, or how Lloyd Alexander disliked what they did with his “The Black Cauldron”.
I don’t outright condemn it, because Disney isn’t really guilty of what a lot of folks seem to assume – that he made ebverything Bright! and Shiny! and Happy! Disney films do seem to have a darker side, they do look for some complexity and depth of character – Disney always wanted his films to have “heart”. There’s an attempt to appeal to both parents and to children , habving something for each group (and not in a simple, pandering way). Disney films provide a reliable oasis of “Family Entertainment”, but they’re not as treacly as that designation might suggest.
Consider “Alice in Wonderland” – right off the bat you could easily condemn it because they didn’t even attempt to retain or incorporate the Tenniel illustrations – Disney invariably redesigns characters. They simplified and re-arranged the story considerably, and they threw out a lot of Carroll’s original jokes and punning.
On the other hand, they kept a lot of the key incidents, the basic themes, and they produced a funny and witty picture. The original book(s), faithfully put on the screen, would have alternately bored the kids and freaked them out. But the Mad Tea Party, for instance, is genuinely funny, and filled with puns and jokwes that are faithful to Carroll’s spirit, if not his letter. If you look closely at the film, it has a surprising number of Carroll’s poems in it, although sometimes they’re hidden away in the background. At any rate, I think the film is overall better than (and certainly more successful than) any other filmed version of the books.
One last note: Disney was a tough businessman, and charged what he knew he could get. I knew a small-town theater ownder back in the 1960s who cursed out Disney for charging absurdly high rates for film rentals, basically because he knew he could – the relentless advertising (interlocked with marketing of toys, books, and games – people who think Star Wars invented mass marketing tie-ins are way wrong) guaranteed a must-see audience that gave you a hit, but Disney’s fees took away a lot of that profit.
Really? I know that during WWII Disney produced anti-Japanese films that were pretty racist–that is to say, they used racial stereotypes to promote the war effort, rather than political arguments.
I live around the corner from Disney’s first studio. It’s a copy shop now, but they have a copy of his birth certificate on the wall.
QUIZ: Where were Disney’s parents born?
You know who liked Hitler, don’t you?
MUSSOLINI! 
Seriously though, I’m a huge fan of Disneyland, but not a huge fan of Disney films that don’t feature Mickey/Donald/Goofy et al.
The only thing I can find about Mr. Disney to dislike is that he made a theme park so good all the other ones I’ve visited have paled in comparison, meaning I don’t go to other Theme Parks as much because I won’t enjoy myself at them as much as I enjoy Disneyland.
There have been threads, and/or posts, where people claim that Disney hates parents or sometimes just mothers and always kills them or makes them evil.
I remember one from not too long back where Disney was called racist because the villians were always ‘ethnic’ and usually had darker skin tones than the heros.
Then it turned out the OP hadn’t seen most of the movies they were talking about, and was ignorance was soundly defeated.
Meh. I like some Disney movies (some of them are among my favorite animated films), but not all of them. I’m not such a huge fan of the princess movies (save the more recent ones), but that’s because I never really wanted to be a princess when I was little. I was too busy being a Lego architect 
. And I can’t stand some “classics”, Peter Pan especially. That whole movie gets on my nerves, but maybe I’m in the minority. Anyway, I’ve never given a movie a free pass if it was made by the Mouse House, but I don’t let the brand name get in the way of my enjoyment, either.
As for Walt himself…there are rumors swirling around that he was anti-Semitic, but from what I’ve read about him this probably wasn’t the case. As just one example, he personally assigned screenwriter Maurice Rapf, a Jew with liberal leanings, to work on Song of the South back in the '40s, apparently because he felt that Rapf could write a script that wasn’t just a huge Stepin Fetchit-type show (Rapf eventually left the project due to personal issues with a co-worker, and the movie, although not exactly a minstrel show, did wind up with some elements that some people object to). Walt WAS, however, quite anti-communist (and, as an extension of that, probably anti-union as some here have suggested) later in life, and may or may not have been involved in the Hollywood blacklisting mania in the 1950s.
Well, I’d be curious to see how that’s gone for them. It’s been about five years.
His father was born in Bluevale, Ontario. His mother was born in Steubenville, Ohio.
Well, there’s good and bad. Giving The Hunchback of Notre Dame a happy ending is reason enough to hate the company, but Disney (or at least, people who worked for Disney) have also done some great stuff over the years.
If you’re going to call Disney on this, you ought to call the makers of every other film version, as well. I don’t know of even ONE that’s faithful to Victor Hugo’s book. Even in the version usually acclaimed as “best” – the Charles Laughton version, Quasimodo lives.
I’m convinced that the reason they made that film was so that they could make the scene where Quasimodo sweeps down and rescues Esmeralda. That combination of classic animation and CGI (especially of the crowd) almost brought tears to my eyes. I think they wanted to show off their nifty new software. Other aspects of that film were …disturbing. But, yes, as a Disney film, they had to put a happy ending on it. That’s part of the Disney expectation, and the Disney curse.
Bonus points: Why do you think the ending of Hugo’s novel isn’t “happy”?