I’d be fine with another voice and I still wish him well. He’s been in previous good health and this is a pretty routine sort of procedure. Medically (assuming all is as described) it wouldn’t be unreasonable to expect him up and around and handling routine workloads within a week or two … even counting that campaigning is not just a usual workload. Whether or not he chooses to is another matter. I hope he is well enough to and chooses not to …
He’s done. The only possible defense against charges that he’s too old is to appear vigorous and healthy at all times. This already took a hit when he was so hoarse during the debate, but now his goose is cooked.
Praying for a quick and complete recovery. I’ll refrain from commenting on the political implications for now out of respect, but obviously they ain’t good.
This. I hope that he is fine, but that he decides to drop out. And I hope he is well enough to campaign vigorously for whoever wins the democratic nomination.
You know what’s even better then breadlines? Ability to get your food without any lines. Shocking, I know.
Your argument is an equivalent of going to a room in children’s cancer ward, and saying “Hey, kids, I hear you all have thyroid cancer here. Sure, it’s kinda bad, but in the next room over, they all have glioblastoma. Oh, they’re f*d in the next room, I tell ya!”
Taking apart Sanders’ quote:
Sanders: “In fact, as far as Nicaragua is, one of the nice things that I saw is that as a result of government policy (direct government policy), in terms of the distribution of food, people are not hungry by and large. I think it’s fair to say, you know it’s funny sometimes American journalists will talk about how bad a country is because people are lining up for food. That’s a good thing. In other countries people don’t line up for food, the rich get the food and the poor starve to death. In Nicaragua people are not starving uh to death”
could you point the countries where “the rich get the food and the poor starve to death”?
In return, I will point the countries, where even the poorest citizens are not starving (and somehow, they even manage to avoid standing in breadlines for hours)
The context for those videos is Bernie Sanders going to Soviet Union and absolutely failing to condemn its oppressive and inhumane treatment of its own citizens, and instead, praising life in the country, which would collapse a few years after Bernie so gloriously extolled its virtues.
If you want to argue with Bernie about his point, you can still write to him. He’s still alive and kicking for the time being.
If you want to impose an entirely different narrative onto what he said in order to suit your own agenda, however, that’s not going to change what he really meant.
Maybe, although Biden has always looked considerably healthier than Sanders (in my opinion). Sanders straight up looks like an Old Man.
This doctor, writing for Slate, thinks that Sanders likely had a heart attack:
That is very true.
This is an inaccurate analogy. First, it’s Bernie Sanders’s argument, not mine. Second, Mr. Sanders was asked what the people of Puerto Cabezas needed most, so that the city of Burlington can lobby or provide for that need. The first thing that comes to mind is food. Do they need food? They do have breadlines for the poor, but “by and large” the people are being fed. What they need is medical supplies, books, lumber, an end to the civil war where the U.S. is supporting the other side, etc.
According to Mayor Sanders, the people of Puerto Cabezas needed all of these things more than they needed food. The proper analogy would be a room in a children’s cancer ward, where all of the children have papillary thyroid cancer that is for the most part under control, and all of the children also have some other treatable disease such as Hodgkin’s lymphoma which is not being treated properly because some U.S.-backed separatist group keeps attacking local Madagascar periwinkle farms (Madigascar periwinkle is a flower used to make one of the drugs used to manage Hodgkin’s; no idea if these two cancers can actually be treated at the same time). Yeah, levothyroxine wouldn’t hurt but what they really need is Velban.
This seems like an exercise in futility, but at the time Ethiopia suffered a severe famine due to both a natural drought and corrupt policies of Chairman Mengistu Haile Mariam.
~Max
I just assumed that was the case. My sister went through the same thing last Christmas.
Thanks. I’d missed that at the time.
Speculation by a physician who doesn’t know Sanders and doesn’t have access to his medical record that he had a heart attack seems unprofessional. Sanders could’ve had an episode of angina that led to cardiac catheterization and then to stenting. It’s a common enough scenario.
With Biden facing months of uncomfortable scrutiny over his son’s multimillion dollar Ukrainian haul and Bernie looking more decrepit, Warren’s camp must be gloating big-time.*
Warren told “liberal activists in Las Vegas”* that she wants to see Bernie “strong and back on the trail as soon as possible”, which rings about as true as her previous declaration that she’s an enthusiastic beer drinker.
**probably not a huge crowd. 
I think an honest person has to admit that at minimum what Bernie said was misleading hyperbole. In the US and other rich countries at that time, there was not a significant portion of the population starving to death. Hunger, food insecurity, OK. Starving to death? I don’t think so.
You tend to have a very negative, mean spirited and cynical view of the humans who surround you. It’s quite distasteful. As I always say, cynicism is a poor substitute for intelligent thought.
If you read the article, you’ll see that the angina scenario is covered in detail.
Yes, I’d agree that Warren’s concerns for Bernie’s health are sincere. On a human level, no reason to think otherwise; and, on a practical level, I think she’d rather emphasize showing primary voters that she can siphon support away from Biden, not Sanders, because doing the former improves her perceived “electibility,” while doing the latter is just what’s expected.
That’ll earn you a warning, CarnalK. Please don’t insult other posters.
Wishing Bernie a long and happy retirement.
But the campaign season is hardly started, and the first primaries are months away, and campaigning is not going to be good for him. And “if he can’t make it thru a campaign, what will happen if he is President” is a perfectly legitimate question, and not one with a unambiguously reassuring answer. I doubt he ever had a realistic chance at the nomination. Maybe he will continue - more to push his issues to the forefront than because he will have a chance to do anything about them as President - but if he actually wants his issues to be enacted he might do well to drop out and endorse Warren. Will that automatically transfer all the Bernie Bros to her? I don’t know. But Warren plus Bernie’s support has a better chance than Bernie alone, or Warren alone.
Probably won’t happen.
Regards,
Shodan
I don’t wish the man dead but I do wish he’d drop out. He can’t win. Not that some of his ideas are great, but the word “socialism” is like a millstone for him. Too many people are scared shitless over it and the last thing we need to do is make it easy for El Cheeto to get another term.