Or at least why haven’t the proceedings to begin the process of deporting her, why hasn’t that begun? We are talking about an admitted immigration fraudster here. I particularly do not like her because she has the audacity to come to our country and use our legal system to be a rabble-rouser, a victimcrat, a professional grievance-monger. We barely tolerate our own citizens who are like that, why should we tolerate an illegal immigrant who does it?
Her face also grosses me out.
Because, until the stuff is 100% dealt with, she’s a necessary witness. And, honestly, with your description, I’m surprised you think deportation is the best option. Honestly, those who falsely cry rape should get more than just sent back home.
That said, I would love it if someone could provide a link with more details. All I can find is information that they are dropping the case (after saying last month that they weren’t going to), but not why. I assume we have a little more information than that, based on the OP.
I think the penalty for falsely accusing someone of rape should be whatever the maximum penalty the accused rapist would have received if convicted based on this false accusation. I would also be in favor of having that individual’s full name, address, place of employment and other personal details published for the public record - and that the snake in question be prohibited from changing legal names.
People who do this are the lowest of the low…they ought to have their lives totally destroyed.
How do you prove a false accusation? Rape is already a tremendously under reported and under prosecuted crime as it is. If you want to be a rapist, your odds of getting away with it are better than even. If you want to threaten victims with prosecution if they don’t succeed in court at prosecuting a crime that’s already very hard to prosecute, then you might as well just legalize rape because you will terrify victims out of even trying.
It would be nice if the posters on this board had one tenth the outrage for actual rapes, which are epidemic in society as they do for the mostly theoretical “false accusers.” I’ll care about false accusers when I see rapists getting prosecuted in the first place.
You’re right. I’ll start. AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!! RAPE!!!
IT’S A FUCKING OUTRAGE!
Yeah, because rapes are always prosecuted to the fullest, and the victim is never, ever blamed. Isn’t it bad enough that the victim is sometimes made to apologize to the rapist? Isn’t it bad enough that men who rape on college campuses can expect very mild punishment, if any? The rapists are NOT expelled, they might have to go to alcohol rehab. What if the cops who are supposed to investigate the crime decide that the woman is lying? I can dig up a hundred more examples.
False rape accusations occur no more frequently than false accusations of other crimes. However, rape is vastly underreported.
I’ll get behind the “people who falsely cry rape deserve the same sentence as rapists” when other false accusations also draw the same sentence as the accused crime. Or when serial rapists are actually locked up for life, NO parole. Or when serial rapists get the death penalty. I’d be good with that. Rapists already get away with their crime too often. I don’t want to put more obstacles in the way of victims who actually summon up the courage to report the crime.
Oh, and this is what rape survivors are expected to do, according to some people:
See, the guy (who pleaded guilty to a lesser assault charge) didn’t lose any of his privileges, nor was he expected to keep a low profile. He should have been expelled from the team, if not expelled from school.
Sorry, but your well known expertise on rape and sexual crimes prosecuting procedure lets you down here.
If anything the opposite is true. Far too many sexual accusations are prosecuted when the case should have never left the complaint room at the police station. And then people are surprised at the low rate of conviction.
I really dont know if that’s true, but one thing for certain, it is cretinous in the extreme to go on lynch mob mode for every rape accusations, to make up for the unaccounted rapes that should have been reported and prosecuted.
A rape accusation can ruin your life, and you cant do shit about it. If that’s some comfort for rape victimes, there’s something seriously fucked up.
That is true of most crimes. There was a study in England which estimated that something like 9/10 thefts, 6/10 for battery and assualts are never punished.
I would be very surprised if it was different in America.
You are very wrong that false rape accusations is “mostly theoretical.”
Also, the reason actual rapes are so under proesecuted is not because of a lack of willingness to prosecute. It’s because the crime is so often not reported. Even when it is reported, it’s difficult to prove.
I dont agree with the comment about how an unprovem rape accusation should be automatic jail time for the accuser. I like living in a country where the burden of proof is on the prosecution. Making a false report already IS a crime, the penalty for which is appropriate in my opinion. If enough evidence exists to prove a person made a malcious false claim of rape, they should be prosecuted accordingly. I don’t believe this is unprecedented.
As a matter of fact it is.
This is a complete load of shit.
Odds are very slim that being accused of rape will ruin anyone’s life, even if (as is almost always the case), the accusation is true.
The ratio of false accusations to actual rapes, both reported and unreported, is miniscule. Rape is a real social problem. False accusations are anomalies, yet every time the subject of rape comes up on this board, it ALWAYS degenerates into a bunch of handwringing about false accusations.
I said both of those things myself. Most rapes never get reported. Most rapists never suffer any consequences.
Odds were very slim that a heretic introduced to the Inquisition wouldnt be guilty.
So your saying that guilty rapists are persecution victims?
Then show some evidence it is. Show that most rape are “unreported”. Which my own experience working in criminal justice shows is not the case.
It’s as easy as Wiki:
And how would your experience show you when rapes were NOT being reported?
Anecdotally, practically everybody knows women who have been raped, and practically none of those rapes were reported.