Why I hate my students

Hey dummy!

This thread is over 12 years old. You joined this month. Do the math.

“Out with the bad, in with the good. Out with the bad, in with the good. Now why don’t you ask the ball if it wants to go home. That’s it’s natural environment. Just tell it to go home”.

I’ll weigh in on the undead thread.

OP, I like number 8.

It reminds me of something that happened to me in college. I was doing a music history exam. A question on the test was about the invention of the printing press, and how it influenced sheet music printing. The question asked what the effects of this new type of music publishing had on music in general. You were supposed to list 3 effects for the answer. I came up with 2, but was stuck on the third. So I sort of made up an answer: ‘‘The invention of music printing created jobs for music publishers.’’ The teacher wrote ‘‘Interesting’’ next to this answer and gave me a mark for it. :slight_smile:

Never mind.

For some time, I’ve been trying to figure out what it is that you bring to the board. I think I’ve decided that the answer is, “nothing”.

To be fair it’s finals time (and I should be grading instead of posting to zombie threads on the Dope). That’s the kind of reaction one would expect to see. I get very frustrated with students this time of year as they are now coming to realize that Judgment is coming. Those halcyon days of frolicking in the grass have come to an end, and their efforts in the course will be summed up with one letter on their transcript.

Immature students will pull every trick in the book to get extra time, extra credit, anything… it is annoying.

The OP sounds like an adjunct or postdoc - if she was the latter, she likely has a major research program to invest time and energy in. If she was new, she likely got one of the larger more challenging sections (because tenured profs tend to teach the fun seminars). So she likely felt used and abused this time of the year, and she’s right.

I don’t know if every college professor needs to love teaching and love students. I think they should at least like both, but not everyone who you encounter in the workforce or in life is going to automatically open up to you the way you would like. I have two colleagues in my department who are notorious hardassses. I’m the nice guy. But you know what? All of us are very good teachers who know our stuff. I guess my approach is more playful and comical, but students will regularly come to me a year or two later and tell me how useful the hardasses’ courses were.

But she should have spelled “plagiarize” correctly.

7/10 (mostly for empathy)

Yes, yes it is. You are genius for recognizing it. Also, butthole.

I think this thread should be resurrected every semester, during finals week. That’s when I need to vent or go crazy, and I finally figured out why:

Because the good students get their projects in on time, ace the written final, and go away.

So I’m left dealing with the … well, non-good students who are “alllllmost done with my project, really, oh, and gonna fix that one little thing on the previous one, and if I redo that one assignment that I screwed up, could I get a better grade, because my dad’s gonna shit a brick and the coach says I have to get my GPA up or he’d gonna bench me and Miss Finster won’t let me make up the test I missed, that old biddy…”

The thing is, students are assholes and i say that as a student myself! I am currently going back to college. In one of my last classes this past semester I had five students in the class. One of the students -

  • didn’t turn in the first homework assignment on time, claiming medical issues (on the day it was due, rather than talking about it privately to the professor)
  • claimed he wasn’t able to buy the book because of a website glitch
  • didn’t turn in the second homework assignment on time, claiming a grandmother’s death or something
  • we had to get a twitter account - didn’t even look at twitter until the third class, when he claimed he couldn’t figure out how to log on
  • couldn’t figure out how to submit his papers to turnitin.com, even though the rest of the class figured it out,
  • complained about class discussions while not participating

This is ONE student out of five! So he’s taking all this time and extra attention and the rest of us are just gritting our teeth.

Then we had another student who had a really difficult time participating in class discussions even though we knew it was part of his grade. This is college, princess! Suck it up! Teacher doesn’t care if you’re shy. It’s not like the requirements were even high - just saying 3 or 4 things during a 2 hour class would have been enough.

Then we had a final presentation that had to be 10-15 minutes - one of the presenters had a 35 minute presentation! Just blatantly disregarded the instructions.

And that was just one of my classes. Sometimes I feel sorry for the teachers.

**Anonymous User **brings a lot to the board. I think he said “never mind” because he replied to the thread, and then realized it was a zombie thread, and decided not to contribute to it.

I came very close to doing the same thing when I posted in this thread. Instead of changing my post to “never mind,” I added to my post that I realized it was a zombie thread.

Yah, I have no idea where that came from. I like AU.

I like AU too. He’s young and sometimes I roll my eyes at his thoughts but at least I don’t want to kick him like some others on this board (Yes I am totally talking to you RNATB*) and anyway he’ll grow out of it.
The funny thing is, I like Frank, too, so now I am kind of conflicted.

don’t mod me, mods! it’s a joke

Considering the little twerp felt the need to lecture me about zombie threads in post #107, I don’t think that’s the case.

I’m very interested in **Frank’s **opinion of Anonymous User, and I’d like to subscribe to his newsletter.

What if they were drinking because a family member died?

I will be honest. I composed a post, but realized it was idiotic and and didn’t make much sense, so then I just scratched the whole thing.

And others should note just how much progress you have made! And I meant that in a nice way. You no longer make me feel stabby, unlike every single other member of your age and gender cohort.

OP, I like your style. If I’d had a teacher like you taking my math class, I might have learned something. Instead, I had a weak teacher that let the assholes trash him and deprive those of us that wanted to learn of an education.

Have to agree with you about students being assholes, but unfortunately most of my teachers were even bigger assholes. It’s no wonder I left school with only a basic qualification.
It makes me laugh when I hear politicians wobbling on about giving teachers more money to improve education. Giving a useless teacher more money only makes them richer incompetent assholes.

Only thing that pissed me off when I was at Uni:

I was doing third year Psych and third year Economics with a female friend “J” (I’m male).

Both of us were doing fine in Economics, but I was doing a bit better than “J” in Psych. We were pretty much in the same boat academically. But I was also working full-time, whereas “J” didn’t have a job. She didn’t need one to get by, because she came from money.

We were both struggling to hand in a particular Psych assignment on time. “J” went to the professor and got an extension on the due-date for the assignment. In her own words, she “turned on the tears”. She was given that extension.

Mathematically, she would have needed to get 100% on the final exam to get a Pass grade for the course. She ended up getting a mathematically impossible Credit for the course overall.

I went to the same professor and asked for an extension on the same assignment. Again, I was in the exact same circumstances as “J”, except I was holding down a full-time job as well.

I pointed out that I was both working and studying full-time. And the (male) professor told me that maybe I should just take a good hard look at myself and question whether or not I had what it takes to be studying at that level. I wasn’t given an extension, and thus failed the course overall.

That kind of pissed me off. Maybe I should have just “turned on the tears” like “J” did.

Hey dumbdshit, did you ever stop to think that giving teachers more money might just bring in better people to replace the assholes?

Another place for profs to vent: