Why is Christianity popular?

I have been confused by the popularity of the Christian faith for most of my life. I even went through a stage where I tried to become a Christian, believing that the majority of people in U.S. society must be onto something I was missing. Christianity strikes me as unoriginal, unbelievable, and childishly simplistic in comparison to the great Eastern philosophies.

By “unoriginal”, I refer to the fact that the concepts of “virgin birth”, “resurrection”, and a blissful afterlife as a reward for having observed religious dogma were all characteristics of Egyptian religion which preceeded Christianity by thousands of years. By “unbelievable”, I refer to the fact that the writings of individuals which were executed decades after the actual events are taken as “the word of God”. I simply cannot “buy” that argument, or the “no matter how terrible your life on earth, if you believe in Jesus, things will be just peachy in heaven after you die” line of logic.

By “childish and simplistic”, I refer to my belief that Christianity treats its practioners as children. Parables provide useful guidelines regarding how to peacefully and happily coexist with one’s neighbors, but the faith seems to me to be lacking in regard to encouraging individuals to discover their own unique truths, values and beliefs through experience and experimentation.

Please note that I am not meaning to insult Christians. I respect everyone’s right to pursue the beliefs that are most meaningful to them. I recognize that many great, intelligent, and wise individuals have been practicing Christians, so I am not suggesting that anyone who practices Christianity is silly. I would simply appreciate insights as to why others are so willing to accept what I find unpalatable.

–“unoriginal”

Assuming for argument’s sake that Christianity is true, and that the events in the Bible are true, wouldn’t we expect all of creation to be filled with omens and premonitions of the momentous events.

–“unbelieveable”

What can ya say? Not everybody agrees.

–“childish and simplistic” … “lacking in regard to encouraging individuals to discover their own unique truths, values and beliefs through experience and experimentation.”

Well, that’s the whole thing. Why do you assume there is such a thing as ‘unique truths or values?’ We never to say ‘discover your own math’ or science or history. Christians believe there are Moral laws every bit as real as those of math and science. Would you tell your daughter to discover her own beliefs about fire by experimentation?
To Christians, the two are perfectly analogous.

OK, my source for this thought is James Michener’s The Source (no pun intended).

The main attraction of Christianity is the whole forgiveness thing. Place your faith in Jesus and all your sins will be forgiven. This is in contrast to the Jewish faith (for example), in which the sins of the father (such as being born a bastard) may not be forgiven, and in fact may devolve onto his son, and his son’s son, for many generations.

(In The Source, a man marries a foreign woman against the rabbi’s advice and has a child with her. She then abandons him and the child, making the child a bastard. Both the father and the child are severely ostracized by the Jewish community. This ostracism will continue for seven generations. However, when offered forgiveness and acceptance by a Christian missionary the man chooses Christianity.)

If the above is essentially correct, one could make oberservations regarding both faiths:

Christianity allows for forgiveness, but does it allow sinners to take the easy way out and never really pay for their sins?

Judaism may seem very unforgiving, but may also be quite fair. Rules are rules. Follow them!

Disclaimer: I am making no judgement regarding the relative merits of either faith mentioned in the post above. I apologize if I have made any factual errors. Blame Michener and/or my faulty memory.

Christianity is not popular in the same way that skateboarding was popular. Most christians are christian by birth… and a lot of them don’t bother to practice, anyway. These people are the descendants of europeans, or people who were converted (often under duress) by european missionaries, or who simply lived in christian societies for enough generations that they were assimilated.

It’s not like there are huge crowds outside the churches each day of people pleading to become christian.

What may attract the people who do convert to christianity (for reasons other than to please their fiancee or to fit in in their new country) may be the prospect of the forgiveness of sins. Most all of the big christian sects allow for confession and subsequent forgiveness of earthly transgressions, and this can be attractive to one who feels intense guilt fo some reason, or simply wants an insurance policy on their relationship with their diety. It’s a way around fasting, or ritual sacrifice, or suicide, all of which are sanctioned by one religion or another.

As well -and this is a little less concrete- is the personability of the deity. Christ, after all, was a man (at least in part) so he’s easier to relate to. Believers aren’t faced with having to ‘be as good’ as a classic god; they have only to follow the example of the god-human, Jesus. Of course, Christ is supposed to be perfect anyway, but you can (and christian leaders do) make the argument that he’s closer to human, and so easier to emulate/understand/relate to. Plus, his corporeal absence makes him, to some, a little more credible than statues or landforms that need to be worshiped.

Third is the presence of a written account of the teachings and actions of Christ, and of God himself, in the older books. With a little poetic licence and creative explanation, this can be taken both as strong evidence in support of the belief, and as a much more accesible and consistent reference than an elder in a far-off temple.

To those in need of comfort, Jesus can also be seen as a source of love. For the lonely, a concrete person with a real history as reported in the bible can be a great solace. The Christ figure can be a source of company, of hope, of confidence, even of friendship to the believer. This may be made a little easier because of Christ’s aforementioned ‘humanoid’ state.

Christianity can also be said to have guidelines for a lot of the common problems that people run into; these being found in the letters of the new testament, and the parables told by Christ.

Christianity is also a largely undisturbing faith. The new testament features little violence, few social indelicacies by modern standards (they don’t talk about torture or sex much) and simple, uninvolved rituals. Crossing oneself is easier for some people to swallow than sacrificing a lamb. There are no calls to violence, no demands for anything frightening (generally- that one’s easily argued).

An addition, there’s something to be said for the simpicity referred to in the first post. The Father, Son and Holy Ghost make life a lot easier and less complicated than an extensive system of dieties and semi-gods.

Lastly, christianity is easy to reconcile with secularism, given the right belief system. “Give to God what is God’s, and to Caesar what is Caesar’s”. Christianity doesn’t have much in it, if properly interpreted, to prevent it’s believers from living in most modern political systems. It also doesn’t require changes to one’s habits. There are no ingrained rules about clothing, nor about which foods are acceptable. Believers are not compelled to any strict patterns of behaviour, although there are a number of rituals in place. The right interpretation gives the christian a lot of personal freedom.

Many of the points raised in the Original Post, however, have been considered in the past and do have merit.

The comparison to the ‘Great Eastern Philosophies’ has been made by scholars before (often with a tremendous amount of bias). Indeed, some of those philosophies were many thousands of years old when Christ is said to have walked the earth. In fact, there are some christian sects, notably in the southern United States, that are less than two hundred years old. It can be seen how the Older phiosophies could be thought of as carrying more weight.

Indeed, may of the tenets of classic christianity were not ‘original’, an argument that has been made by anthropologits who have studied both the bible and earlier records of other cultures. If the New Testament were taken to be fiction, there are plausible explanations for where the writers could have got their ideas.

Of course, it can be difficult to believe the books of the bible when it is discovered that they were written decades after the events are held to ave occurred. It doesn’t help, either that the New and Old Testaments are often out of line with each other, that there are internal inconsistencies in both testaments, and that there are no less than four different accounts of Christ’s life. To explain these away, one needs to break from fundamentalism, and consider that the stories as written may not be exactly the events as first told; that they may have been modified slightly in the years between occurrence and inscription. And if that is to be believed, then can they truly be held to be the word of God?

As for the idea of believers discovering their own truths and values, the christian take on this is sometimes expressed in a line from the gospel, where Christ reports: “I am the way, the truth and the light.” He goes on to say that no one may enter heaven “except by me.” Case closed, it would seem. Not much room for personal truths there.

Another fact that could discourage converts is the questionable past of christianity. The church has a history of devisive internal disagreements. It has historically been unable to hold itself together, frequently spawning disgruntled subgroups. It also has a track record that lists crusades, executions, forced conversions and witchhunts. The christian religions have not traditionally been a very friendly lot.

In all, there is no single reason (and some would say no good reason at all) why people still choose to become christian from time to time. A number of reasons have been put forward why christianity is perhaps not the best choice for everyone. Nonetheless, it has estalished itself extensively, by various means, and doesn’t seem to be at risk of being snuffed out, except perhaps, by the modern apathy of its followers, particularly in some developed regions.

Everyone else here has put in incredible insights to a hot button topic. However, everyone has missed a *key * point of why Christianity is so popular:

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Who wants to grow the ZZ Top-Mr. Yoder beards? No one looks good in them. Yuck.

I think the appeal of Christianity to the poor and powerless can not be overlooked. The Sermon on the Mount was a direct address to those who feel they don’t have much in this world, and would be rewarded in the next.

I have seen a number of ministers who serve the poor, and that is the central point of their message. There is no admission fee to believe in Jesus, no annual dues, and their missions do not have a dress code.

One can over-intellectualize the appeal of anything, be it religion, political party or Oprah Winfrey. Simply to be told “God loves you unconditionally, and if you accept God, you will be rewarded with eternal life” is a powerful message to someone for whom this life offers little.

The Master speaks.

Good PR and pushy evangelists.

As Monty Python’s Flying Circus puts it, “The Mohammadens don’t come around waving bells at us. You don’t get Buddhists in the bathroom, or Hindus harmonizin’ in the halls. The Shintos don’t come here shattering sheetglas in the sh*thouse–”

HairyPotter
I’ve long disagreed with the statement that Christianity is popular. Although the largest religion in the world (roughly 2 billion of the world’s 6 billion people), how many are strong adherents to their church? I’ve actually felt that attendance in churches has rapidly declined in our prosperous times and that fewer and fewer people strongly identify themselves as Christian. It has become a loose label for many people.

The reason that Christian’s are so sure they are right is because the Bible and Christian theology answers many of the questions people have about the world and our place in it.

It’s not that simple. The New Testament is quite adamant about making a complete change in your life when you accept Jesus as your Savior. Faith is not in your words but in your actions such as following God’s Commandments, praying, fasting, being baptized, attending Church, reading the Scriptures, repenting. Those who make this commitment notice incredible changes happening in their lives and there is an “aha” moment when you realize you have found the correct path. Once you find this faith it is very hard to be removed from it. Why would someone experiment with other religions when they believe they have found the ultimate truth?

Christianity is an “experiential religion,” as I will call it. One cannot just read the New Testament while not following the commandments within it and expect to understand the religion.

Mambo wrote:

Not many, in the course of everyday life – but let one person step forward and cry, “There is no God!”, and every twice-a-year fair-weather luke-warm Christian for miles around will come out of the woodwork to Beat the Word of God into that poor soul.

One thing that strikes me is that Christianity seems to belnd into other cultures in a way other religions can not. I am not saying that missionaries are not often guilty of cultural intolerance; but on the whole, Christianity can be adapted to other cultures.
Early Christianity blended the Jewish written tradition, Roman law and polity (the state as religion), the Hellenistic tradition (St. Augustine essentially “Christianized” Plato and Aristotle), and the “Mystery religions” such as the Cult of Mithras. This blend was very appealing to the late Roman world.

If you look at contemporary American Christianity, cultural and philosophical divergence is apparent. There is a church for almost everyone. Some churches are for the fire and brimstone fundamentalists, others may perform Lesbian weddings. Just in my little area, thre is a "Korean Baptist Church", a Lebanese-American Melkite congregation, a bilingual * Iglesia Adventista del Séptimo Día *, and an LDS Mormon Church. All have different congregations and vastly different services and beliefs; but all are Christians.

Do other religions have such a variety? Maybe I am mistaken in thinking only Christianity is this diverse.

Here’s a link from a article in Newsweek. One of the reasons that Christianity is so popular is because of missionary efforts. (I know, duh, right?) It raises some interesting points, however. Namely that we think of many of Americans as being “cultural Christians” instead of “practicing Christians”, but that people in other countries are more likely to take the religion to heart. People in America tend to be born into their Christianity, while people in other countries have “found” their Christianity. Why would you convert to a religion only to go about it half-assed, afterall? Also, Christianity is a religion that directly speaks to the downtrodden of society, which is one reason why it has become so popular. When (many) people in America hear things like, “Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven,” they are reminded to not look down upon poor people. When people in other countries hear it, they hear that they are blessed. Powerful words.

A lot of people become Christian because of fear. The fear of going to hell. This is a technique used by a lot of “witnesses” (I hate that word!).

The other technique is guilt. People feel guilty of things that they have done and the forgiveness that Jesus offers makes anyone, regardless of how sinful, “white as snow.” The bible uses the phrase “white as snow,” I didn’t know that it SNOWED there?!

Now, I consider myself a Christian, and when I defend my faith, I simply say I believe it because it’s true (yeah simple, right?). It explains the origins of the earth in the same order and manner as science does. I know the majority (including Christians) think I am wrong, but Genesis never defines a “day.” How can one revolution of the earth (the first 24 “hours”) occur when there is no earth? So what is seven “days?” Adam and Eve were not alone, Cain married a woman from Nod who came from different descent. Dinosaurs are the first among God’s creation, and were the strongest and largest of the moving animals. The is no “rapture” in the bible either, so you can see how most of “us” are mindless followers. The modern church consists of people who follow one pastor or, Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, Jack Van Impe (ugh), etc. Ironically, this is what Jesus meant by the “blind leading the blind.” All of this stuff is in the bible and that’s why Christianity has been around so long among the scholars. However, I’m sorry to say that more often than not, a Christian has no clue what the bible says and generally believe some pretty stupid things as a result. But, when researched, the bible is basically impossible to refute. We just need to separate it from the man-made bedtime stories. :slight_smile:

jaimest and 23skidoo,
You raise excellent points regarding the support that Christianity provides to the poor and down-trodden. Your points regarding the diversity of Christianity in adapting to a wide array of cultures also make sense.

I appreciate the insights that have been provided regarding the appeal of Christianity to many people. GD provides an outstanding forum for learning about the beliefs of others.

One of the reasons (I believe) for the popularity of Christianity - in addition to the excellent points made by 23skidoo, kunilou, jaimest and others - is that it encourages a personal experinence of God, an individual relationship with him.

This has two results - firstly, it is more rewarding than praying to an idol which doesn’t answer back or a god who only communicates with the chosen few (priests/elders/etc) who then tell you how to behave and secondly, it allows for a multplicity of methods of communication/worship, as evidenced by the proliferation of Protestant churches.

Both of these points have thier downsides as well, because one is encouraged to communicate with God on your own, it is possible for someone to believe that they have heard the voice of God when in fact they are just deranged or deluded. It is also too easy for people like this to gather around them others who want to hear what he/she has to say and start thier own congregation/sect.

Gp

A quick search on Google for ‘Snow Israel’ found this:
Snow in Israel.

I heard about a Polynesian(or something) translation of the bible, the locals would never have seen snow, so the translators rendered the phrase “White as coconut kernels”

Without disparaging the many good non-cynical points made above, I’d like to point out that one reason Christianity is popular is that for a pretty prolonged period in the European portion of the world it was punishable heresy not to at least give lip service to Christian beliefs.

Other religions and faiths were actively persecuted. Not the discrimination-in-housing kind of persecution. The burning-at-the-stake kind of persecution.

This state of affairs held for a protracted period of slow change, remained intact and even intensified through and after the Renaissance (with Catholic and Protestant persecutors going after each other as well as other infidels), and left its stamp on the cultures of Portugal, Spain, Italy, Germany, France, the Netherlands, Britain, Ireland, Greece, Russia, etc, when those nations were making empires.

Seriously, folks. You should read Cecil’s article on this and try using the search engine before you ask questions.

Doesn’t make for much of a debate then, does it? This may be blasphemy, but just because Cecil said it is so doesn’t mean there isn’t room to debate it. Let the Teeming Millions speak!

But he did say something worth noting on in the referenced article. “Today a few skeptics feel Christianity itself has run out of gas, but I’m not seeing it. Assuming you’re not merely going to switch to some other well-established religious tradition, or else take up with the Shirley MacLaine crowd, what else is there?”

I reference that because I believe a big reason for the success of Christianity is it’s constant reinvnetion of itself. From it’s beginning as a Jewish cult to it’s modern day incarnations, it has constantly sprung up with new ideas and concepts. Modern Christianity has practicaly no Jewish theological roots now and the one constant they have is ideoligical transformations.

The most rapidly growing forms of Christianity today are the newer denominations. Acording to this cite, those gaining most members are the Pentecostals and Evangelicals, which are very similar to each other. Considering that the Pentecostal movement is only about 110 years old, that is fairly new. And these groups believe in the reinstatement of the gifts of the spirit as described in the NT. So now you’ve got salvation, but you get all these neat gifts like speaking in tongues (glossahola) and prophecy and healing that has been missing from church history for 1700 years. But it helps to bring in those involved in the “New Age Movement” since that is what it basically is. (By the way, I believe that Falwell, Robertson, Hinn etc. all fall into this category.)

And this is just the most modern reinvention of things.

Can you say the Mormons and Jehovah’s witnesses? Or Biblical literists? Or how about the whole idea of the Rapture? Getting bored with church, well get your ass here because we’ve got this new thing called rapture! Ever heard of it before the 1800’s? Then there is Martin Luther, who among other things, reinvented some church principles and brought those in who didn’t want to (or couldn’t) pay to get forgiven.

But this goes back to the very beginning. The early church bent over backwards to include everyone. Since most Jews weren’t converting, they had to find a way to get converts. Mix in some pagan theology, claim some of their holidays as your own, get rid of those things that could be a hinderance to converts (hence getting rid of circumcision and dietary laws) and whammo! the masses start to converting.

And through it all, you get to keep the old factions around as well. Now Christianity isn’t the only religion to do this, but they’ve almost perfected it. Now they’ve got a sect or ideology to appeal to almost everyone. How could it NOT remain popular?

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I do not agree that the Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Mormons are Christian. The Jehovah’s Witnesses for one do not believe that Jesus is God (iirc, they believe He is some form of the Archangel Michael). Secondly, the Mormons added a whole other “testament” which is clearly forbidden (I know the Christians added a New Testament to the Jewish Bible but that is a principal reason they are considered two common but different religions). They should not be identified as “Christian.”

There are many other new churches that have been springing up as of late (the last 50 years seem to have been a particularly active period) but many of these new churches do not believe in the same core beliefs as the “traditional” churches. The litmus test for a Christian church is to see whether it complies wholly with the whole Holy Bible.