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Not “hard” to block since I showed a simple addin could do it (supposedly) but rather incognito does not protect you from it.
The yahoo front page bore zero resemblance to my browser history. Just saying.
Btw, since Snowboarder brought up that post earlier, I decided to look into AOC’s publishing firm. It would probably be better to drop that from her list of accomplishments.
Care to share with the group? I found precious little about that business venture.
Exactly. As far as I can tell it didn’t publish anything and was dropped within a year. I don’t want to mock, as it sounds like a nice little social project to develop children’s books that are in urban settings but it sure seems like a bad business idea.
It is hard to tell what will be a bad business idea. Stephen Hillenburg (who passed away a few days ago), creator of “SpongeBob SquarePants”, was a marine biology teacher who thought he could use his artistic skills to educate kids. He designed a comic book called “The Intertidal Zone” to introduce kids to that part of the ocean and one of his characters was Bob the Sponge.
I ask you, would you expect that to become a huge success and global phenomenon?
Just saying…you never know.
Do you think it wasn’t successful because the founder was a simple bartender?
I think she took up bartending after this. Do you think running a publishing firm requires any knowledge and experience or is it like a Congressman job that anyone can do?
How many businesses do you think are started in the US every year by people who are new to running a business?
What about Apple? Texas Instruments? Microsoft? Amazon? All started by people with not much money, working out of garages.
We have a president who has gone bankrupt what…seven times? And his adherents tell us that just shows how amazing he is?
Personally I will give credit for trying. Most successful people who built their own empire will tell you they did so by learning from failing.
I guess I am saying failing at something, by itself, is indicative of nothing. There is more to it than that and you should admire the gumption it took to try.
If you can show she made ridiculous decisions that is different. Got any of that?
Starting a highly specialized children’s book publisher in 2011 is itself a rather ridiculous decision. Most people who start businesses have some sort of experience in the industry. What she did seems a lot like those people who open a restaurant but have never flipped a burger or waited a table.
Like I said, it seems to me like it was more of a social project than a real business idea.
I’m pretty sure that a Congresswomen’s job only requires that person to get enough votes to be elected.
The fact that “She was only a bartender” can be countered with “She’s a Congresswoman and you are guy on a message board” should tell you everything.
Nice burn!
A fair cop. I read that as implied that she wants to come in and lead the change to create such a bloc, which would wield power to make strong demands, but it is true that she did not exactly say that she wanted to be its leader. The idea of using the power of a small bloc to make demands though … that was more exact.
No, that’s how you get the job. She was pretty impressive at that.
Based on your comments, it seems like we were listening to different interviews.
AOC was asked about the freedom caucas on the right and whether there should be something like that for progressives. She answered that there already was an existing progressive caucas that had something like 70-90 members. But the members of the progressive caucas voted differently on almost all the issues. The success of the freedom caucas is that they vote in tandem. She said that if there were a progressive caucas in the range of 10 or 30 people that voted in tandem on the progressive issues, they’d have more power to make a difference.
She didn’t say anything about leading the group. She mentioned that there may not be enough interest, so she’d have to see in January.
I didn’t get the sense that she would try to use the smaller group to hold the others “hostage”, but I guess it’s possible.
I’m also not seeing the same sense I’m getting from your posts about her that she wants things to be about her and is not willing to play well with others.
In the first half of that podcast, she talks about how she spent the first half of her campaign coalition building with her backers like justice democrats, our revolution, DSA, etc. When she was asked by Joe Crowley in a live debate whether she would back him if he won the primary, she said that she’d have to go back to her constituency to ask them before she could answer.
She said that she sees herself as a movement candidate and doesn’t see herself as running on her own policies. She added a few issues to the standard progressive issues, but watching an interview of Bernie Sanders in 2015 highlighted all the same issues she campaigned on. That makes sense since our revolution is Bernie Sanders’ group.
She spoke about how she keeps in touch via social media with her constituents through both her volunteer squad and her backer groups. She mentioned how it was a tough week after elections because she didn’t have time to check back in with her groups.
Since the incremental approach is Bernie Sanders’ approach at the moment, I don’t see AOC going against it since she’s backed by our revolution, Bernie Sanders’ group.
Then again, I’m wondering if the progressives might not try to speed up the timetable with the focus on healthcare and the majority of the country behind it. Medicare-for-all is polling at somewhere around 60-70% of the country in favor, depending on which poll you look at.
…I started my highly specialised photography business barely a year after I posted this thread where I got the spelling of “Cannon” wrong. The business is still going.
And this is a problem because? Social projects aren’t a bad thing. They won’t make you rich. But they can provide valuable experience.
I checked the first 70 headlines at news.yahoo.com and the first 25 at www.yahoo.com (there was modest overlap between the two.) No AOC. Interestingly(?) it was very difficult to copy-paste the headline-links at the News page, but not at Www.
Correct. She also worked at non-profit organizations, presumably for low pay; and interned under Ted Kennedy during college, probably unpaid altogether. In the olden days, this was called love for public service.
What’s your point? Instead of Alexandria, we need politicians like Trumpo whose greed motivates them to prove their Americanism by defrauding gullible people as fast as they can?
My only point was when you drop the factoid “she founded a publishing firm at age 22” some might jump to the conclusion that it was a real company that published something.
Anyways, I’m sure at a minimum she’ll be a decent Congresswoman. We’ll have to see how well she runs her office and builds relationships before we know she is a rising star.
I think the point is that as admirable as that stuff is, it’s still a pretty sparse resume for being a Representative.
And my beef isn’t with her per-se, although I disagree with a lot of her policies, it’s more with the voters in her district for electing her, despite her drastic lack of experience or qualification (relative to the vast majority of other Representatives), and the news media for trumpeting her like she’s actually anything significant.
I kind of think she’s kind of a Democrat counterpart to Trump, in that both are clear indications that the electorate, Democrat and Republican want change, and are willing to vote in inexperienced and outspoken people who aren’t part of the system, but who seem to embody what they value (Trump - rich, white, racist, obnoxious, AOC- female, ethnic, socialist, young, radical, not quite obnoxious).
She’s a symptom of something bigger going on, and it worries me that she’s being held up as more than she probably is.
:rolleyes: Wow, that sounds almost exactly like what you wrote when you decided that bartending wasn’t a “real” job.
Nearly every post you’ve written in this thread is either dismissive or simply denigrative of Miss O-C.
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Only by the GOP and it’s ilk.